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I know you weren’t calling for the list to be reported.
I think I associated you with CJ popping up, and contesting that CJ was “kind” and shouldn’t be on the list. (CJ admitted to liking hate posts)
But you may be unaffiliated w CJ
I’ll not bother you further!
Mostly describing the situation.
@ s0nfgib.bsky.social is out here sending unsolicited DMs to people, writing “it’s your perogative”
then complaining about getting blocked, inventing false reasons for the block
@moderation.bsky.app: a BRIGADE is going on which is why a list to protect against that behavior is important
Boundaries!
@moderation.bsky.app hey!
Sherry @ justiceforall.bsky.social is committing a brigade at the moment - multiple posts asking to report, multiple posts making false claims, after being blocked for safety concerns.
Upset that she’s on a moderation list, a list for people who exceed boundaries.
If you’re currently ON my account, because someone pushed you to brigade me, you realize that is THE BEHAVIOR listed, right?
It has nothing to do with your personal efforts to make the world a better place - it’s toxic behavior to brigade others, to ask moots to go evade a block!
Learn boundaries
Sherry with a Why says “I agree some Vs can be abrasive, but no more abrasive than this ridiculous slanderous list”
Sherry with a why then asks everyone to report this list “this is unadulterated hate towards v gans and is as baseless as it is biased”
Gigafox calls people “what a petty nobgoblin” and sherry thanks that comment with “thank you G. That list is so clearly biased towards anyone who speaks up for the victims, no matter how cordially. Gigafox responds “that’s essentially what I reported, a biased personal grievance instrumentalized as an attack against innocent individuals of a maligned ethical minority”
Just for transparency sake there is now a brigade occurring
that was egged on by CJ, the person who was out there calling themselves a “kind v gan”
So temporarily, the list IS on BLOCK - they cannot access me for the next 2 days while they actively brigade and say “nobgoblin”, then “who, us??? 🥺”
“There literally is no reason to consume animals or animal products”
starvation? lack of other options within the system, for people w/o options?
I get your stance as a belief, but it rings as classist if you cannot think of any reason for an individual to do so.
You’ve never starved, have you?
If anemia + similar health issues were addressed, nobody would be saying “for my health”
Everyone saying “for my health” - or nearly everyone - is someone with a medical condition
So dismissing them is ableism. Their treatment may be bunk, but the root cause is they do have a health PROBLEM unsolved
If you don’t start at the root causes, you won’t change end effect
They found pregnant teens impregnated by serial adults
and used birth certificate tracking and punitive age-of-consent laws, and were able to remove the offenders so they didn’t commit serial crimes.
Halved teen pregnancy rates!
Reviving the analogy of abstinence education and abortion reduction
if you’re saying “don’t have abortions, don’t have abortions”
but not looking at “oh, this is a teen pregnant from an adult serial abuser”
“this is someone w/o contraception IUD access”
“this person doesn’t have health education”
Veganism isn’t going to work if it doesn’t work on its inherent ableism problem
There has to be solutions (AND respect & empathy) for treating anemia, vitamin deficiencies, respecting people with allergies to major ingredients, arfid, poverty
if you don’t work backward,
from the root health issue
couldn’t fit it into 1 tweet, but there’s an extreme nausea condition that’s under researched, and underfunded.
So because one thing doesn’t get treated (pregnant people dehydrated and at organ failure, from too much emesis), they turn to something that is disapproved of, to help (w eed).
Anemia>🐓
Which is why you could address the anemia crisis, because a lot of the people are moving back to eating some limited amounts of meat as an (attempted) treatment for iron deficiency or other issue.
It’s like people who smoke w eed while pregnant, NOT healthy, but they have an underlying condition.
That’s essentially religious though - “why would someone believe in God for 10 yrs, then turn their back on their faith” - it literally doesn’t make sense
It’s a religious moral argument you’re making. Many people are former vegans, it happens, they exist
People existing in their lives makes sense
“Long cool woman in a white coat” writes This is bizarre. You did not start eating dead animals "for health reasons," there aren't any. I would recommend a good psychiatrist, maybe they can figure out this sudden obsession with violence against animals.
This one, by a licensed pharmacist, was using and weaponing mental health language to send someone to a psychiatrist, for eating a meal.
“There aren’t health reasons” would have been sufficient (belief), and not hate. But telling strangers to go to a psychiatrist for that?
The ableism jumps out.
Yeah, but it sparked a lot of hate over 1 drumstick.
I had no intention of making a list until it was the “discourse of the day ™️”, and the comments read like religious zealotry and abuse
The post liked was akin to the “you were never a Christian” comments, that some denominations do to others.
Meanwhile I had to sift past people telling me to die… and ppl being ableist about medical conditions, like denying they exist and cause issues of access to certain foods that I simply cannot eat.
That wasn’t helpful, that wasn’t veganism in its truest form (being positive)
The friendly mentors, 👍
The vegans that got me were the ones who meal planned, had a convo about my questions/hangups, and also recommended me their favorite brands.
Some brands weren’t accessible to me, yet they’d work great for other people.
Some brands did work for me, and that completely cut out my dairy intake.
Yes, vegans do get a LOT of pushback from a society that is majority non-vegan.
The reactionary hate is not helping the cause, though
Being a beacon of happy veganism, great recipes, tasty dishes, healthy on the environment, easy to access, and it’ll come natural that people want to follow in that
making it hit people’s interest is the way to go:
Vegan chili (cheaper than buying meat, easier to cook!) - also tastes better
This recipe is lower in cholesterol!
etc
while not harming animals IS important, people’s motivations differ, and any reduction is good!
“This is EASIER to cook than a 🦃”
“I don’t think the repliers comment was a good strategy” - yes, it was a hate comment, directed at someone for their meal.
and they can post hate comments on this app, and other people can add hate comments to a list, so they don’t have to see things written in hate.
Everyone has their choices.
Like think about how much could come from “skip the turkey recipe this November! Pick pizza instead”
so *how many* entire birds aren’t cooked
Make it snazzy, make it easy, and work on incremental wins.
When people change habits, they start to change more and more habits because of initial change.
You could respond similarly to how I’m responding now?
Just as people shouldn’t be hating on you, for your lifestyle decisions and diet, you also need to not hate on other people for their diet?
and instead highlight actions that need or could use harm reduction done
You can discuss how those food companies ARE the problem, like how the cattle industry IS a source of animal harm.
Here’s some thoughts on how to communicate more effectively with others (calling them rapists isn’t it)
and make structural changes, that will do MORE overall good than hate rhetoric
and you’re personally aware of if she paid for the drumstick?
it wasn’t free at the community local event, or at an extended family dinner, or leftovers?
Discussing how farms & food producers do harm animals - via insemination and encaged enclosures - is different language than ‘you pay for rape’
It’s quite similar to abortion discussions where every side might want the number of abortions to go DOWN*, via contraception and planning and prevention of non-consensual abuse, etc
You can discuss lowering abortion rates without “baby killer” rhetoric.
That rhetoric is inflammatory, and hurtful.
You could say “another once-a-vegan 🙄” which is how they represent *themselves
I get it, like “vegetarian but eats hot dogs” - not sure they know what the word means there
But there’s no evidence within the post liked that shows she *isn’t* a former vegan
added to “rape/torture/murder” wording
Impassioned is not hate
Deciding to reclassify someone you don’t know from “former vegan” to never a vegan is presumptuous, and designed to harm them.
If you call anyone who eats 1 chicken drumstick a rapist, as that tweet did, you’re free to do so, and people are free to disassociate from you.
I agree with you on that: people should be vetting block lists!
I strive to have good methodology, and the person who just NOW came to me about being a “kind vegan” and how they shouldn’t be on the list, they agreed they did like a hate post
and as a result just posted about me on their page. So !
