Andrew Doull

I think they’re a lot more prone to engineers disease which is a well established risk factors for extremism

Yeah 3D6 is just a crazy curve.

Can you intuitively tell me where 57 cm falls on a 1 m long ruler without reading the numbers?

And to answer the obvious question, Sixty Years in Space is a 1D6 roll under system that masquerades as something much more complex so you feel like you’re getting your moneys worth.

Thinking about Apocalypse World dice curves must be in the water tonight.

Thanks. It’s great to see a nuanced view on this.

Anyway, the answer to your question is "there's nothing wrong with using 1d20". I actually think the significance of die choice is massively overplayed. My whole rantthread was really a response to someone saying my dice mechanic was borked, but TBH I don't think the choice is that significant.

What’s wrong with using 1D20? It’s a lot more intuitive for modifiers.

Flexibility how? Reducing the standard deviation of a roll only matters if you use the numerical output - not for a binary pass/fail. And if you’re using the numerical output, I’d argue you could just use a fixed value in almost every instance eg hit points.

With a 1D20 system you’re comparing two numbers.

You’ve already made two numeric errors defending 2D6 in the space of this thread, if you want a real world example of how hard it is to understand.

You’re still adding numbers together.

Designing a game where the players have to understand a 2D6 probability curve is a much greater failure.

Fight me

In summary, 1D20 is better than any 2Dn system for making probabilities intuitive to the players.

18-20 is also a 1 in 6 chance.

If you told your players they’d have to roll 18+ to succeed on a D20 for every roll they’d rebel and yet that’s what Apocalypse World does.

(10-17 is a mixed success. And you wonder why players get “complication fatigue”).

Regular reminder that rolling 12 on 2D6 is almost twice as unlikely as rolling natural 20.

So what mechanic is it? Bad board buff?

I guess the better fix is to let Falcon bounce 0 cost cards. That’d make Hammer decks slightly better.

You’re playing a bounce deck. You’re already having to play around Killmonger.

If the card is unrevealed, you don’t get a new horde when you play a card with Horde on it.

This is probably the maximum a sensible-ish deck could get with this approach: a 0/8 and a 0/10.

This message is especially for game designers.

How I play Marvel Snap

Also double Scarlett Witch on the same lane feels pretty good.

Confirmed that you can get multiple hordes in play in Marvel Snap. If they made the hordes 1 cost to let you also bounce them with Falcon, this might actually be a viable deck. As it is, you have to guess the location that the horde appears to Beast it if you want 3 on the final turn.

Confirmed that it only applies if the card is face down

1 cost multiple hordes would let you Falcon 4; Moongirl or Frigga + Horde on Scarlett 5; then have 3 hordes hit the board on 6 with 2-3 buffs on Scarlett. But they clearly didn’t think of/want this play line.

Both of which give you a horde in your hand at turn 6 at the earliest if you get a perfect sequence, and no time to play Majik.