Dio D. Vicen

YouTube video by Brain Inspired BI 223 Vicente Raja: Ecological Psychology Motifs in Neuroscience

I've been talking about ecological neuroscience and other topics with @braininspired.bsky.social on the Brain Inspired podcast. You can check it out here 👇
youtu.be/Aj3LyStBgpg

What is plant nutation?
What is a motif in science?
What lessons does ecological psychology have for neuroscience?
How does Vicente @diovicen.bsky.social enjoy the band Judas Priest yet still do good philosophy and science?

Here are the answers:
braininspired.co/podcast/223/

Some friends and I submitted a commentary

Preprint here:

doi.org/10.31234/osf...

@guicogsci.bsky.social @segundo-ortin.bsky.social @diovicen.bsky.social @tonychemero.bsky.social

<em>Psychophysiology</em> | SPR Journal | Wiley Online Library This study bridges brain and body through ecological psychology and neuroscience by demonstrating how ecological information—in this case, “time to contact” or tau—constrains brain activity and as mu...

Is ecological neuroscience a feasible enterprise? After some theoretical work on ecological resonance, we've engaged on experimental research to test some of the hypotheses that follow from it. These are the first results of (hopefully) many more to come! It's open access 👇
doi.org/10.1111/psyp...

Want to make sure @mljanderson.bsky.social and @diovicen.bsky.social are seeing this.

To be completely honest, I think that, in general, neuroscientists are far more open to this issue than the "philosophers of".

Aligning brain and behavior To understand how the brain generates behavior, both brain activity and behavior must be measured accurately. Although neuroscience has developed powe…

"Although neuroscience has developed powerful tools for measuring brain activity, its behavioral measures are far more primitive, as it lacks a coherent conceptual framework for analyzing and interpreting behavior."

True! Happy to see this idea is growing.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...

It never ceases to amaze me how angry some people in mainstream cognitive science get when one talks about non-representation/non-computation while they completely refuse to at least read something about it so they can have an actual reason to be angry that is not just "hey, normal science, bro".

YouTube video by The Dissenter #1124 Miguel Segundo Ortín & Vicente Raja: Ecological Psychology

@segundo-ortin.bsky.social and I were talking about ecological psychology with @thedissenteryt.bsky.social:
youtu.be/s6EwRYqmP64
www.thedissenter.net

My impression is we’ve lost this kind of thinking in contemporary neuroscience: that we need good theories of the brain and *behavior* to explain stuff. James, Lashley, Hebb, Tolman, Skinner, Gibson… They all agreed on that.

David Lee just died.
He formulated tau/time-to-contact, the most famous bit of ecological information.
He is one of the main reasons why ecological psychology is still alive.
We all are indebted to him. I met him once and ended up having dinner at his place. Very cool guy!
RIP

Affordances are motifs. Representations are motifs. A sentence with both words can mean anything! 😱

No os lo vais a creer, pero en el otro lado hay un grupo de filo-bros discutiendo durante días sobre si hay ideología en la ciencia. Al quinto día empiezan a apelar a Popper. Hay que quererlos.

I work (mostly) on ecological psychology and (often) on plant intelligence. And you can’t imagine the amount of ideological reviews I get. Really bad scholarship, if you ask me.
Is this also the case for people working on more mainstream frameworks?

The best of all left 15 years ago.
#longlivedio
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RiJ...

¡NEW PUBLICATION ALERT!

"A World of Minds: Ecological Psychology as a Framework for Comparative Cognition"

Authors: Miguel Segundo-Ortin, Paco Calvo, & Louise Barrett

You can download it from here: miguelsegundoortinphd.com/publications

This might be the best BlueSky thread to date.
Don't be like Vinny.

Exactly! We hope the ecological information that specifies the affordance will be somehow reflected in brain activity. With apologies for further self-promotion, we are trying to figure out how to test this: doi.org/10.31234/osf...

Ecological Psychology Cambridge Core - Biological Psychology - Ecological Psychology

I think the main issue re affordances is that eco. psychs. think they are not/cannot be encoded/represented in the brain. If anything, brain activity is coupled to ecological info.
A little bit of self-promotion, but I think this an accesible primer on contemporary eco. psy.: doi.org/10.1017/9781...

In an alternative universe, cog. scientists *read* eco. psych. and find out that...
1. The foundational texts of eco. psych. (Gibson 1966, 1979) don't talk about representations.
2. Affordances aren't what they think they are.
3. The core is ecological information.
4. 50 years+ of experimental work.

To be fair, the press release says "SCENE builds on principles from ecological psychology", so I guess the Andrew's question is legit.

The motifs of radical embodied neuroscience The notion of motif is proposed to enrich the philosophical toolkit of cognitive neuroscience. Motifs are highly unconstrained, open-ended concepts that support equally open-ended families of explana....

Maybe they are motifs 😇
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/...

Just coming here to say I admire your constraint in answering this kind of stuff. You are a saint 😇

I'm happy & sad.
Happy part: the word "ecological" becomes usual in neuroscience.
Sad part: "affordances", yes, but the aim is to find how they are encoded in the brain.

Some eco. psychs. in the project would've made it radical but perhaps more interesting? Something like: doi.org/10.1111/ejn....

I should probably know this, but there's any ecological psychologist in the Toronto area (maybe Southern Ontario in general)?

We all have at some point, I think 😁

What do you think is the statement most often (uncritically) repeated in cognitive science, biology, and their philosophy that is nevertheless quite obviously false?

In my opinion, it is:
"Organisms face an uncertain, ever-changing environment."

Abstract acceptances have gone out (finally, sorry for the delay :) Still some spaces if anyone would still like to present! Drop me an email if you are interested

Registration is now open at the website - early registration runs till the end of this month

Yeah... I have a hard time engaging with those people 😅😂

My impression is that most people doing contemporary AI take it to be different enough from biological cognitive systems that it is not regarded as a model of biological intelligence anymore.
For those who still think AI ~ Biological Intelligence... I think what you state in this thread makes sense.