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🙁 I'm still alive, no boot in sight though. Which kinda sucks, need to get some winter boots in the near future. 🫤

😞 Zamn. Ok then.

This is counted as harassment now?

Well since you're stuck saying "I did" like a broken record, I just wanted to say that Sean Laraway your so called proof blocked me when I replied to you saying that he didn't provide much of it. Also apparently he isn't even in SAG-AFTRA, from what I've seen.

And I'd like to know what that is. Or are you just gonna go in circles here. All you need to do is provide a screenshot of when I harass a VA, which shouldn't be hard if, according to you, I did.

You really didn't, no.

You can say this is me "running away" but I wouldn't say so. I don't think I add anything more to this convo than has already been said by other people. See what they say and it's mostly what I believe. 2/2

Nah, that's okay. I said what I wanted to say. I doubt anyone is going to change their mind here. Heck if anything I understand your side more than I did before. Thank you for explaining it a bit to me though! I just have no more energy left for this. 1/2

Then show it, if you could.

Are you? Show me proof in what I said, screenshoting my profile and highlighting posts does nothing.

The discord server for starters.

And www.hoyolab.com/article/3851... which mirrors most of what I believe. Hope you don't mind a hoyolab link, but there's a 300 word limit on Bluesky.

Then what are you proving with that screenshot? Tell me.

This is a tricky subject, with a lot of assumptions going on. But seeing how SAG-AFTRA has acted and also certain VA's it doesn't really fill me with much hope that they are doing this for a just and good reason. It's like they're using AI protections as a farce to conceal their true goal.

Well, I'm sorry I worded myself poorly. I didn't mean to say that we should let it get that far in the first place.

It's SAG-AFTRA, they look like a shady union from what I've seen. There's plenty to stand benefit from, especially since they haven't been that transparent.

Sure, if they do, do that then they deserve the backlash they would hopefully face, but again until then it's just assumption on assumption. Like I said, best case, Hoyo puts something about AI protection in the contracts when hiring VA's.

No, because they wouldn't be under US law, but rather under the laws of their country where they work from. I understand what you're saying. And with this I totally agree, AI is bad, and the push of companies using it is worrying. And I fully support VA's striking against that, and only that.

I understand, that would be tricky wouldn't it. The best Hoyo could do for everyone is just have AI protection laws in contract when contracting western VA's. But this is also assuming Hoyo would use AI-Voices without permission, where they would face backlash from consumers.

Why wouldn't they? If Hoyo used AI-voices of the VA's, Hoyo themselves would be in trouble with their government. I feel like people wouldn't let that slide. But what I feel, may not align with what might happen.

Mostly countless of posts and videos online. And the behaviour of certain va's and SAG-AFTRA members.

Guess what, all my posts are this comment thread.

What do my posts prove? You want me to go check them? Sure.

So there should be no issue, no? There is no reason to strike when there are already laws in place for this. Also, SAG-AFTRA as far as I know, also signed something with an AI-company too, didn't they?

From what I heard Hoyo legally cannot use the voices of VA's to make AI voices, unless they get permission from said VA I think? I'm not well versed on chinese law so excuse me if I'm not 100% correct on this.

Okay, so AI protections are important I agree, but if that was the only reason the VA's were striking everyone would still be on their side, but that's obviously no longer the case as we both know.

Huh? Can you send a screenshot of me harassing VA's, I'd like to know what you're talking about so I can clarify and maybe apologise I guess?

I literally say that sending death threats is not ok, and that those people should get checked. I dunno where you're getting your fantasy from. Also I never harassed VA's? I just commented on what they, themselves did.

Then your proof is also not enough.

Didn't I already swear in this thread lmao? I swore because people sending death threats is absolutely vile and uncalled for.

All I'm saying is that you've had no reason to swear so far, showing that you are getting mad. All I'm trying to do is have a civilized discussion. No need for swears.

Okay, then show me the proof on how they are misrepresented, that quite literally all I need. And no, a "debunk" consisting of "No, you're wrong!" is not enough.