I also donโt blame you for walking away from talking about this. Genuinely i mean this. I hope you can relax and just find something to laugh at and have fun with after dealing with all this.
28.04.2025 01:03 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0@sonicjoshua.bsky.social
I also donโt blame you for walking away from talking about this. Genuinely i mean this. I hope you can relax and just find something to laugh at and have fun with after dealing with all this.
28.04.2025 01:03 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0We have butted heads on many occasion to where you might think i hate you or im anti union. Iโm neither of those things. And agree with the point of if there was a better union id support it right away. Cause workers deserve there right. Just right now asking to support a flawed one is a hard sale.
28.04.2025 01:01 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0unless again i am missing something
28.04.2025 00:30 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Cause saying itโs ok for a union member to do so means they would need to be fi core anyway or ignore GR 1
28.04.2025 00:29 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0I just had to actually look at a few pages to understand wtf salting even is. Which only means a worker goes to a Job with the intent to organize a union. Atleast is the simple description i got. Which i say is fine. As long as its a non union or fi core worker doing it
28.04.2025 00:29 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0actually more to point to show iโve been following this for a bit, i do actually remember reading something ages before this went bad that sag and hoyo have had private talks or something to that effect for a while.
27.04.2025 22:00 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0I can agree to that. I do have to say however that posting something like that during the middle of when the internet was already heated, especially with the winky face, was not likely the way to do it, regardless if it was interpreted correctly or not.
27.04.2025 21:43 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0thatโs not the point, i concede they were and didnโt make that clear that i was in my last post apologies, im just saying considering in hindsight how that and many other posts has just lead to more problems for them, keeping things private seems to me to have been the better option
27.04.2025 21:27 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0That them coming public to push talks can possibly be mis interpreted as them becoming involved in matters they have no juristiction over. Now rereading this myself
If it was just for talks fine. But to avoid confusion as has been a big talking point
Should have been kept private
x.com/sagaftra/sta...
their interim agreements
believe me or not i did try
and google and just missed this so that is my bad truthfully
they are calling it a strike
so i keep referring to the hoyo strike AS a strike
which joe welts and erikas point ive brought up have been about
And i would have left sag out of it if they didnt insert themselves into the hoyo strike by telling hoyo to read their documents.
www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStar...
for context about welts va
This combined with Welts vas comment about not hearing about the strike till recently, really shows how Joe was right in this strikes communication being messy--
27.04.2025 19:22 โ ๐ 4 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Becuase they cant directly. But actors can. And from what Joe said this strike was in response to the bigger ongoing UNION strike. So it happened to strike while in a way in the Union couldnt. And if a union member got caught breaking the rule on this strike. It would hurt the greater strike.
27.04.2025 18:46 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0I know that sounds dumb but allow me to explain fully before responding
27.04.2025 18:36 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0The second comment is true, it should be enforced and im happy its being enforced more now.
The problem to me is. Its only being enforced in response to the strike. Meaning once this strike is over does that mean the rule will continue to be enforced in the same way?
Ok let me be more clear in my problem
27.04.2025 18:34 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0If this was already done a while before the strike began than it shows the GR1 needed an entire rework
27.04.2025 18:31 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0By making the consequences worse? make examples of people so people know hey you arent fucking around anymore and you need to actually listen to the rule? because if making an example or Erika or anyone else who breaks the rules is ok now. It should have been way before this.
27.04.2025 18:30 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0Again i can argue all day but my point still stands
If nothing else. Bringing a extremely flawed system like GR1 in without trying to fix its issues BEFORE going on strike was a misstep.
Yes to both sides. As it possible its not as threatening as she making it. Or its equally likely it is and theres something your side is missing. And things need to be looked into more.
27.04.2025 18:18 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0By only really showing you can reign it in during a strike
shows you are able to reign in your members.....which begs the question why hasnt this been more heavily enforced before. Whether or not I or you see it as morally or legally grey irrelevant since it only comes down to how hoyo sees it.
Ok saying its threatening or not is not possible for either of us to say that for certain, Granted.
But You have to understand that, you have a problematic rule, that people have been calling out for a while and no one calls perfect. And only now are we really seeing it enforced/reigned in.
So its ok for SAG to come in to echo their union members goals which seems to also been in line with SAGS own goals?
27.04.2025 18:09 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Tho i do have to ask. If it was true people knew that she was union and this was public info. Then why only now is she seemly getting punished for breaking GR1. Wouldnt she have had to be punished all 4 years shes been working? Or is there something im missing here.
27.04.2025 18:04 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0again i wasnt aware and said if i missed something let me know. Apologies it took me two messages to understand. I can take a L on that one
27.04.2025 17:52 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0From what iโve seen from screen shots from this recent case there was no direct mention of her being union only talks of her talking with SAG, now if she did bring it up earlier and I was unaware thatโs different and i apologize.
27.04.2025 17:35 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 3 ๐ 0All that to sayโฆ..why snitch on her??? To get heat off you? Because thatโs again showing selective punishment, why no public lambasting to other such rule breakers. To keep consistent no this doesnโt make her breaking GR1 correct still. But just why?!
27.04.2025 08:08 โ ๐ 4 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0wait a sec wait a sec wait a sec, if erika is getting A violation email, that means she was union, and no one knew till you just said soโฆ..those emails could have had any context but to be blunt
for how itโs been said the usually handing of union members are kept private this seems pretty open