Yay, SB63 signed into law, authorizing a regional transit funding measure for the SF Bay Area, essential to save and improve service for BART, Muni, AC Transit, Caltrain! Bill allows a signature-gathering effort that would passage with 50%+1 of the vote. www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/u...
13.10.2025 23:28 β π 42 π 10 π¬ 2 π 0
Muni had to remain a part of the project, including financing most of the overall cost, because that 2022 bond failed, which took away the major dedicated funding source for this project. If that had passed, then things likely would have turned out very differently.
01.10.2025 18:27 β π 5 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
I mean the idea was more along the lines of traditional joint development, provide a needed resource (housing) in tandem with the bus yard and also bring in revenue for the agency. That whole equation fell apart in 2020 when D9 and D10 supes mandated it be 100% affordable in exchange for approvals.
01.10.2025 18:26 β π 5 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
I think in a way yes the federal money did flood the market almost too much, but at the same time that observation is tricky because the global supply chains were so screwed for 2 ish years. So Iβm not sure exactly what the true impact is, but Iβd still hazard that it did have an impact.
26.09.2025 21:07 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
I think you see the issue with federal cash wrt how many people tried to order and rush BEBs into service during the Biden years, and how people tried to reform things too late. Doing a clean slate PCC style reform would have been a better start rather than working backwards to standardize imo.
26.09.2025 21:06 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
Add in global tensions and trade wars, and the risk of having to pay ransom to get bus parts in the country for your random Greek bus manufacturer becomes a giant issue. Going with the somewhat reliable but expensive choice is 100% going to seem safer for a public utility.
26.09.2025 21:02 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
And finally a note about why others canβt break in: risk. Agencies canβt afford to place risky bets nowadays on things like buses. Money is tight and they need something reliable. New flyer is expensive but a known player, random European company is unknown and a risky proposition wrt reliability.
26.09.2025 21:00 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
A certain Bay Area agency literally has one of their buses condemned and set aside because itβs a fire hazard since proterra hasnβt been bothered to fix it for over two years. Bottom of the barrel bus manufacturer - yes theyβre bankrupt now but that wasnβt always the case!
26.09.2025 20:53 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
The bigger thing that I think is also at play is that parts/support game. It comes as no surprise to me that Nova left given that New Flyer has so much of the market cornered with its parts and support game. Likewise with why NF has such a hold on large agencies and others canβt break in.
26.09.2025 20:38 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
If a vendor cannot send a tech to fix their broken product for over a year, it comes to no surprise that said vendor will get a bad rep. If that vendor also tweaks with battery safety settings and lies to agencies about that, it also comes as no surprise that said vendor will go under.
26.09.2025 20:32 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
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Of note here, this isnβt exactly true. Proterra went under because their product was inferior to the big players product, they cut corners with safety, their price point was out of touch with reality, and their customer support was beyond pathetic.
26.09.2025 20:31 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 2 π 0
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26.09.2025 20:30 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
Furthermore that βduopolyβ is more a monopoly, and the one big player a) has massively jacked up its prices, but b) has had its quality go down the drain a decent amount and c) is having its own problems with vendor lock for things like diesel hybrid buses, which further constrains the market
26.09.2025 20:26 β π 4 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
A couple of thoughts though:
- agencies have already eliminated a ton of their customization, the main things that differentiate different buses like seats donβt cause too much price changes
- the fact that the market is a duopoly is far more impactful than this paper makes it out to be
26.09.2025 20:25 β π 4 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
Very neat paper www.brookings.edu/wp-content/u...
26.09.2025 20:23 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 2 π 0
Theyβd have to hire up + remain extremely competitive. Muni has a pretty decent issue with not losing linemen and other overhead lines employees to utilities with higher pay.
25.09.2025 14:29 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
To put this loan amount in perspective:
California is spending $500 million to widen a 10-mile stretch of Highway 37 in the northern Bay Area (through a wetland, no less).
But $750 million to save the *entire* Bay Areaβs transit systems is apparently infeasible.
07.09.2025 11:54 β π 523 π 146 π¬ 10 π 5
Hi my name is (your name), I live in (your town), and I was so relieved in July when I heard that the state budget would include a $750 million emergency loan to BART, Muni, AC Transit, and Caltrain to stop massive service cuts, before funding starts to flow from a regional funding measure) . These transit agencies provide essential service to our communities and I depend on them to get where I need to go.
However, Iβm very concerned that with just eight days left to issue the loan, the Governor hasnβt followed through on his promise to protect our communities from these devastating cuts. Iβm calling to urge him to make good on his promise and issue that loan ASAP to these transit agencies and stop these terrible cuts. Thank you.
Gov Newsom still hasn't signed the $750m loan to Bay Area transit agencies that would get us to the Nov 2026 funding votes. He has eight days to act.
Please take a moment to call his office at (916) 445-2841 and use the attached script, copied from a @transbaycoalition.bsky.social.
04.09.2025 20:25 β π 82 π 45 π¬ 3 π 7
If I recall correctly he paid salaries for random staffers in his own office with the MTA budget! Not just random other departments raiding Muni, his own office π
06.09.2025 23:07 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
To an extent, it probably would have received a small sum of that money (like $5-10m for overall subway systems renewal of which the special trackwork project is a part).
Though this has been languishing since pre pandemic. Funding aside thereβs never been an easy time to actually do the project.
27.08.2025 04:22 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
Just ancient, overdue for replacement switch components. All of the subway interlockings are due for replacement, embarcadero unfortunately happens to have the worst condition frogs which is why thereβs a years long speed restriction on the outbound side.
27.08.2025 00:02 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 2 π 0
Philadelphia transit hits βdeath spiral.β More cities could follow.
Across Philadelphia and its suburbs, commuters are bracing for a dramatic reduction in public transit after state lawmakers were unable to agree on funding.
Across Philadelphia and its suburbs, commuters are bracing for a dramatic reduction in public transportation after state lawmakers were unable to agree on how to fund the struggling system.
SEPTA officials have called it a βdeath spiral.β
23.08.2025 21:00 β π 97 π 34 π¬ 12 π 15
doing a heritage livery for a few cars is fine, doing a new livery that uses elements of a past livery and then tastefully remixes them is fine. but I 100% donβt like βoh weβre just going to do what we did 50 years agoβ and then slap some random giant M on it that ruins the throwback.
18.08.2025 16:40 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
might get crucified for this but I think they all suck. if youβre going to brand these as βsuper different/fleet of the future,β then donβt make them look like the same trains that are from the 70s. be bold! do something totally new and interesting!
18.08.2025 16:38 β π 5 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
Nobody even comes remotely close to da mayor
18.08.2025 16:28 β π 4 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
Contrast this to another west coast agency that is trying to light as much money on fire as possible while building a rapid transit extension
15.08.2025 18:51 β π 10 π 1 π¬ 0 π 0
Bart studied I think conventional Bart as well in the very early 2000s. Went nowhere.
13.08.2025 03:23 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 2 π 0
Troubling findings in this new UCLA report:
Americans are taking far fewer trips than they did before the pandemic. When they do travel, they've shifted toward driving and away from transit.
Those trends are particularly pronounced among youths 15-29.
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08.08.2025 13:00 β π 28 π 8 π¬ 1 π 5
a graph of ridership growth of Caltrain in the Bay Area, showing a massive increase in ridership post-electrification
Some good news is that ridership on the Bay Area's Caltrain continues to skyrocket in the wake of the route's electrificationβpassenger counts are up 79% compared to this time last June
06.08.2025 22:01 β π 98 π 8 π¬ 3 π 2
I mean fwiw BART also was monopolistic and blocked AC transit from considering restarting transbay rail service. Not saying CPUC and traffic planners at the time werenβt evil, but itβs not as simple as that.
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