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This is will be a giant leap forward for the Fire. Pretty ideal downtown location, beautiful & well conceived, and construction costs are 100% self financed.

My only quibble is that I would’ve liked to see a capacity of 25 to 30K so I give it a 9/10.

17.06.2025 04:11 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

I understood the need for the first force Majeure. A big chunk of the season was lost & it only extended the CBA by a year, but I absolutely agree w/ you re the 2nd. Kicking it out another 2 years was really opportunistic IMO & had to leave a really sour taste in the MLSPA’s mouth.

13.06.2025 18:39 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

Nice, thanks again!

13.06.2025 16:07 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

Not only is MLS risking losing the post World Cup β€œbump” it’s been hyping for years, but it now looks like there is a real chance of a work stoppage that would take this league backwards.

13.06.2025 05:18 β€” πŸ‘ 4    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 0

MLS, through both decision & indecision, has taken a series of positions that have put it at odds w/ both fans & players recently.

Hosting the CWC & WC is a generational opportunity for MLS & it seems to be doing everything it can to squander it. In this case playing hardball over found money.

13.06.2025 05:18 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
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It's officially the midway point of the MLS season! So instead of the usual Sunday night column, I've got:

- mid-season awards
- tactical trends to watch
- best coaching adjustments

Don't stay up too late reading!
www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-mid...

09.06.2025 03:12 β€” πŸ‘ 87    πŸ” 6    πŸ’¬ 11    πŸ“Œ 3

Dog killing adulteress says what?

10.06.2025 02:24 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

This does not bode well for the next CBA negotiations.

08.06.2025 20:02 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
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5 Things We Learned: Chicago Fire at D.C. United - MIR97 Media Let’s just get this out of the way: It’s important not to over-index the Chicago Fire’s 7-1 victory over D.C. United. Both teams put out heavily rotated lineups, and were missing a combined 20 players...

Don't read too much into a game where a team ships 7 (on either end), but here's 5 things we learned in the Chicago Fire's rout of D.C. United last night

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#cf97 #VamosFire

08.06.2025 17:53 β€” πŸ‘ 6    πŸ” 1    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

I’m still hopeful that USL gets it done & is successful. More successful clubs, fans, & exposure does nothing, but move the game forward in the US.

However, @jeffreycarlisle.bsky.social did a great job laying out the myriad of challenges USL will need to overcome. 🀞🀞

08.06.2025 17:49 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

Meeting those standards is gonna require major investment & new investors to make it.

While USSF could & probably will relax some standards, @ least initially. If there’s no revenue sharing, it’s all the more critical for USL teams to meet those standards to generate enough revenue to survive.

08.06.2025 17:49 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

I still believe Pro/rel is worth the risk, but these facts make an already steep hill to climb steeper IMO.

It was always gonna be a tall task for USL to meet stadium, market size, & owner wherewithal requirements not just for the initial division 1 teams, but also for teams that are promoted.

08.06.2025 17:49 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

3. There will be no parachute payments for relegated sides.

08.06.2025 17:49 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

There’s a lot in this article I didn’t know, including:

1. Due to USL’s franchise structure, there is no revenue sharing & all nat’l tv & sponsorship stays w/ the league’s owners.

2. Both the league office & vast majority of teams are losing money w/ the San Diego Loyal losing $40M over 4 yrs.

08.06.2025 17:49 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Excellent piece by @jeffreycarlisle.bsky.social on USL’s plans to institute pro/rel & both the possible benefits & the many hurdles the league & teams have to clear to make it happen.

08.06.2025 17:49 β€” πŸ‘ 4    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

FCD just began a $180M renovation of their stadium. Over the next 3 yrs they’ll be completely renovating the East, North, & West sides & adding a roof. The 1st stage is the east side, which is why it’s covered. Unfortunately that’s the side the cameras are pointed at. Has nothing to do w/ Messi.

05.06.2025 02:59 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Yeah, sorry I meant to say Bridgeview, my bad.

04.06.2025 15:19 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 0

You can also add scheduling conflicts to the list. The Fire have had to move 3 games to Bridgeport this season.

04.06.2025 14:36 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Chicago Fire stadium location is once-in-a-lifetime parcel in downtown Chicago:

2 blocks from three CTA rail lines, about 1 mile S of Sears tower.

About 1.5 miles down the road from the Fire's new, $100m training facility

#cf97 #mls

03.06.2025 12:49 β€” πŸ‘ 97    πŸ” 19    πŸ’¬ 6    πŸ“Œ 8
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Top speed:

1) Emiro Garces (23.54 mph)
2) Jayden Nelson (22.74 mph)
3) Peyton Miller (22.51 mph)
4) Mounsef Bakrar (22.35 mph)
5) Alonso MartΓ­nez (22.33 mph)
6) Miles Robinson (22.31 mph)
7) Joseph Paintsil (22.25 mph)
8) Thiago Martins (22.22 mph)

02.06.2025 18:52 β€” πŸ‘ 14    πŸ” 3    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 2

SMH. I get that this is kinda difficult to navigate given the budget charge language in the CBA, but the players should get, at a minimum, 50% of the prize money. Stop fing around & add a carve out provision.

02.06.2025 00:32 β€” πŸ‘ 6    πŸ” 1    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

MLS teams would absolutely still sign U22s, but I wouldn’t want them to continue to use as large a percentage of their budget on them because that hasn’t proven to be an effective team building methodology.

That’s the whole point.

31.05.2025 20:07 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

To what end? To develop a better, younger domestic player pool, which is more important than bringing in a 20 YO Colombian.

That said, again, you can still sign that player. It just wouldn’t be the only way you can improve your roster if what you really need is a competent CB.

31.05.2025 20:00 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

Just to add to it. There are 3 times as many HGs & college developed players amongst the top 50 outbound transfers in MLS history as U22s. Frankly, I’d rather see MLS lean into that. Longterm it’s better for the league anyway.

31.05.2025 18:11 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

I think that’s a bit of a false choice TBH. You can still sign young exciting players w/o the U22 rule & the data just shows that U22s don’t have as much impact as they should &, relatively speaking, not that many are making big moves either.

31.05.2025 17:15 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

MLS should & likely will always have a DP rule to sign players like Messi, but he’s absolutely right that simply looking at revenue & current spending & simplifying rules to allow FOs more flexibility in how they spend would, in all likelihood, yield better results on the pitch.

31.05.2025 15:59 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

There are certainly success stories to be found & I’m all for MLS signing good young talent.

However, teams shouldn’t be forced to do so as one of the only ways to spend in the transfer mkt more freely.

31.05.2025 14:56 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
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However, MLS has never been good at recognizing obvious flaws in its rules & making changes that don’t necessitate an overall increase in $ outlayed, but will result in a better rosters & on field product.

So, despite its flaws & waste, the U22 rule is likely here to stay thru the current CBA

31.05.2025 11:58 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Given that U22 signing represent ~30% of overall transfer expenditures, I think you can reasonably conclude it has been a failure.

Given the data, it’s obvious to me that MLS should:

1. Retain a mechanism for HGs.
2. Shift the rest of the $ being into a higher budget.

31.05.2025 11:58 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Fantastic analysis. I’ll have more once the MLSPA releases salaries, but overall what the recent analyses of the U22 program have shown is:
1. Overall It hasn’t been profitable.
2. U22s take significant time to develop & many never do.
3. From an on field perspective it’s best used in domestics.

31.05.2025 11:58 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 2    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

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