SPEAR OF GRASS

Exactly. And the article is behind a paywall. Has anyone commenting on this site even read it?

Is this all based on one Axios article that is behind a paywall?

If it can be shown to be evenly loosely connected to the shutdown, Thanksgiving travel will be noticeably suppressed.

The house would have to sign it first which means they would come back into session. Which means that Grijalva would be sworn in. Which means there would be a vote on Epstein.

If the Democrats are unable to win a sizable victory from this position, then they are just inept. The Republicans are losing badly.

If this is the plan then what are we even doing with this whole thing? If it is broken beyond repair, and I believe it is, why would we want to puppet its corpse?

Trump calling for the end of the Filibuster is a tactical mistake. It takes away a key plank of Johnson's argument, which is that Republicans can't be blamed for the shutdown because they need 60 votes in the Senate.

Republicans have only two options. End the filibuster or negotiate.

Shit or get off the pot.

If the Democrats end the shutdown in exchange for only ACA subsidies then they have lost. The Republicans are stuck between a rock and a hard place, and all the Democrats will have done is help them wiggle out. Tarriffs, Medicaid, ICE... pick one

This is a wrong-headed take. No one should want to see Article 1 of the constitution disregarded. Only money allocated by congress should be spend.

ACA subsidies are not enough. Medicaid must also be included at the very least.

I am sure retailers are thrilled to hear that Christmas money will be spent on groceries rather than presents this year.

Black Friday. What's that?

If Republicans bring the house back into session they will have to swear in Grijalva.

Our plan is to hope he dies before completing a facist takeover? This is all very alarming.

We are managing to "slow that process". Is that supposed to be encouraging?

If SNAP really goes unpaid, feeding your neighbors will become a powerful act of political resistance.

Of course it always was.

Wow.

Democratic Congresswoman Melanie Stansbury absolutely destroys Jake Tapper — who tries to advance a debunked Republican talking point about Trump cutting off SNAP.

MAGA is not ready for the blowback it will get from their own base if SNAP doesn't get paid. That being said, I am incredulous that it will happen. They dont call him Taco for nothing

Although we are far from the end, we may be approaching the end of the beginning.

Right. So what is the Republican end game?

I still don't see the end game. Will he pay the military? Will he pay the Air Traffic Controllers?

If there is going to be a stand alone bill to fund SNAP then the Houss will need to be called back into session, and the Democrats should not proceed until Grijalva is sworn in.

If the house votes then it is in session. Don't vote on anything until Adelita Grijalva is sworn in

It doesnt make any sense to say Republicans just plan to let SNAP expire, ACA rates to sky rocket, the Military and Air Traffic Controllers to not get paid. They think the Democrats will cave. We will find out

This is why I think it is highly unlikely to happen

So many things coming to a head this week. Feels like a possible inflection point

This is why Democrats can't accept ACA subsidies alone. Dont help them wiggle out from between that Rock and a hard place.

The US is in a death spiral that it refuses to get out of because everyone is too wedded to a fake sense of normalcy and the broken status quo. Instead of fundamentally changing things, people just double down on what they know, and it exacerbates every problem, accelerating the collapse.

He is right that the Republicans need Democrat votes in the Senate. He cant get them because he refuses to negotiate. It is absurd to suggest that Democrats should be expected to rubber stamp Trump's agenda.

If all the Democrats get is an extension of the ACA subsidies then they have lost this fight.