average intracommunity beefs

str-ngeloop 2h if i'm being honest it's quite obvious how pregnancy is a unique positionality and process, central as it is to social reproduction. it makes sense that it's so contentious and important. i don't find myself driven to downplay its political weight. str-ngeloop 2h and frankly it's obvious how a lot of Gender Evil is directly downstream of Pregnancy Fascism. and you know if we want to be deterritorializing woman from pregnancy per se more power to us. but i'm not interested in ignoring how the construction of womanhood was historically built in large part around the domination and control of the people with the bodily means to the process of making new people. in a marxist way genderkoolaid 2h #👍 this is The segue into transandrophobia theory btw#it turns out they keep doing Pregnancy Fascism even if we're not women

an ontological void upon which other genders come into focus.

examining those unusual intersections and what they have to say. But it remains mere acknowledgement, without the drive to consider how those intersections undermine mainstream theorizing of gender subordination. This consistent refusal renders men with the life position of experiential misogyny

presumed to be cis, presumed to be seen as cis, presumed to have no social history of other-than-man, and presumed to be in a dominant position relative to any woman in proximity. While some wave to the complexities of intersectionality and politics of location, rarely are they interested in fully

manhood as a natural state of humanity requires constant work to stabilize and thereby projects itself both backwards and forwards in time and memory as it shores up each crack.

Even much of transfeminism, where masculinity is addressed, the states of manhood become folded into an eternal Man

of how-men-treat-women and how-men-treat-men rather than the way gender orders all violences writ large), nor the true-subject of transmisogyny (the primary focus of which being the class of trans folk re/moving themselves INTO womanhood).

An end-state in manhood is totalizing in its fragility--

there is no feminism that embraces transmasculine subjectivity. most feminisms anticipate (at best) subjects with an end-state in womanhood.

a transmasculine subject is neither a true-subject of misogyny (as the perception of how misogyny structures manhood is seen primarily in the twin reflections

list of weirdo trans chauvinists who think they have inherently different needs from other trans ppl based on status of medical transition it is, then

Do you want an answer, or do you just want to go on the "uses cissexual unironically" list?

Random drop in to appreciate the acknowledgment of bi/pan/mspec lesbians too

Just because it feels that way doesn’t mean Jewish suffering is a universal yardstick and using a dead Jewish child as a universal figure is dehumanizing which is a thing Jews have been saying since way before this situation

how are there still trans people who don't understand that gender identity and orientation have slippage and fuzzy boundaries, so trying to police the boundaries of "gay" and "lesbian" based on a trans person being the "wrong gender" is just transphobia

“Irl we just kiss” / antitransmasculinity studies ‘transmasc vs transfem’ discourse & reactionary ‘boys vs girls’ politics in trans spaces

that's a reasonable phrase. I started using anti-transmasculinity from an essay by Salem Void (altho imo "transandrophobia" sounds snappier)

Admittedly ive gotten cynical about good faith in these semantic arguments. It often seems like an excuse to ignore the discussion entirely

Sometimes you will be a lesbian to your parents and a straight man to your partners parents and a gay man to your partner and a woman to your grandparents and out to your friends and stealth to your classmates and a nice young lady to the cashier at the coffee shop and then people on your computer will ask you to choose which of these identities you ACTUALLY are and which you are Appropriating The Oppression Of because don't you know they contradict each other. You can only be one thing solidly forever

Either the intersection of transphobia and misogyny is transmisogyny for all trans people, or trans women experience transmisogyny and trans people of other gender experiences can name their intersection (so learn about exorsexism and accept the truth of antitransmasculinity or transandrophobia)

I do not and cannot understand the argument that I am describing both transphobia AND misogyny but to name that overlap (for trans men specifically) is somehow implying that man as a class are systematically oppressed, rather than that this is the existence of THESE men

"Theres transphobia and Theres misogyny but if you name the intersection where they overlap on trans men instead of trans women you're wrong"

Ok

I can't believe you're so dumb as to ignore the obvious context of "describing a patriarchal thought process" so fuck off

We are theorizing with other compound words because we are at the same intersection and disambiguating from what trans women experience.

am i calling what trans men experience "transmisogyny" now?

Transmisogyny is a term for trans women. We are naming the intersection that trans men experience because they are also standing at the same intersection. If you want me to call trans men's experiences "transmisogyny"...

"Transphobia and misogyny exist, why are trans guy trying to name where those two things overlap in their lives? How weird and MRA"

I'm not allowed to describe the misogyny (bc I'm calling you a brood mare), I'm not allowed to acknowledge misogyny (bc I'm misgendering), I'm not allowed to name it something else (transandrophobia/antitransmasculinity)

idk I guess you just don't want to talk about trans men's issues at all

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Me: Gende, not womanhood, affects the experience of violence and bigotry. Trans men are perceived as failed women, Black men are perceived as hypersexual/hyperviolent, Asian men are emasculated, in ways that women who share their identity arent

This asshole: HDU say men are systematically oppressed

"white supremacy treats trans men in a specific misogynist way because trans men proves that people can move from the lower caste to the higher"

SUPER MRA

"The government is suppressing binders because they want more brood mares and not living trans men"

Such an MRA argument damn

okay but I asked about "antitransmasculinity". That should be clear. No "androphobia", very specific about be focused on transness.........