Daniel in Cornwall

(...and this is a reason to go there)

Also I'm just not sure there's anywhere else that you can get spaghetti cacio e pepe made at your table on the surface of a giant parmigiano wheel by an actual pirate.

I'm not sure it's easy to define "real output" and draw a line from "workers on boards" to improving that metric. It may be true that British private sector management has coincided with poor performance but harder to establish the causal link and explain why the input of workers fixes the problem.

The first step that's implied by Labour electing someone more "amenable" is that Labour pivots away from a strategy of insulting its own supporters at every opportunity, likely to lead to a move back from Green/LD/DK to Labour in the polls. Polanski's negotiating position becomes a bit different.

*wrong in the sense that they are picking the bit of the "provincial C1/C2" circle which is characterised by liking Reform policies, having a low probability of voting Labour, and general only being interested in a party which actively repudiates most actual Labour voters' values.

Gearing your strategy towards groups XY&Z doesn't mean "jettison" group W. The Venn diagram of what appeals to the groups has some decent overlap but then you have to pick which non-overlapping circle is bigger. Current Labour strategy assumes they are two separate circles and picks the wrong* one.

30 minutes to the pub =/= 30 minutes home from the pub

Apparently it’s saying we must give ordinary voters the tougher immigration policies they want whilst making sure we don’t give in to sectarian and divisive politics.

Maybe pivot the garden to food production

It doesn't work well for a party to give the impression that they think "hope for positive change" is basically an extremist position when you're dealing with an anti-politics mood best summed as "we need change and the established parties can't deliver it".

Can define 'proper' in different ways, but there is a lot of scope to fix obviously bad parts of the tax system. In some cases that ticks the "tax the rich a bit more" box as well. What's now difficult is a) council tax reform and b) honesty that unaffordable NI cuts should be reversed and then some

I'm not sure that's accurate. If you conclude that it shows Reform hoovers up 95% of the right-nativist bloc and the left-liberal bloc splits 60-40 between two parties you could extrapolate to a lot of Reform wins (the atypically high left-lib vote here prevents that) but lots of args against that.

Most plausible explanation is that if you don't instinctively share your core supporters' beliefs, you have to rely on other sources of information about them, and the source of choice in Westminster is the X/Mail/Telegraph/BBC doom loop which has successfully skewed perceptions of 'typical' voters.

The only thing the right is devouring is the principles Labour keeps cheerfully feeding to it - the actual votes just went left as a result.

Every day’s a school day

Looks like they may keep some of the brands going, though not clear whether that's licensing/local production in Cornwall or centralising at another site. Atlantic and Sea Fury are excellent, would be a shame to lose them.

Same for trips to Ikea, tbf.

They recommend early nuclear strikes for that too.

Yeah, right up to the point of departure you can get all the Moomins, mooses and Iittala glassware you can eat.

We went through during the strikes at the beginning of July and even as a ghost town (about 2 out of 3 shop units etc shuttered) it was a really pleasant experience. Not many airports where transiting after a 13 hour overnight flight feels in anyway nice.

Helsinki (non-Schengen) - loads of space, peaceful and you can lie around and watch the Aukio installation forever. Also rocking chairs.

I get all that and why that might mean Lab don't, in general, like the Greens that much, but activist-level relations/opinions shouldn't be relevant to electoral strategy among 'normal' voters who don't tend to be very engaged in this stuff. Not going to convince them Greens are the bad guys.

Absolutely this. Possibly lining up alongside the Greens and LDs to dismiss and insult Reform angrily would be a good idea too - sets a context to say "it's just a shame, when we agree on these important issues, that they have [insert weird policy here]" while sounding like the sensible party.

It's not about what Labour are "entitled" to do because of how the Greens behave, it's about what Labour should do to maximise support. Far more effective to show Labour supporters you share their values by saying 'we'd love to work with the Greens on these areas, but some other stuff is a concern'

It's the overall "false hope" narrative that is used and the failure to adopt a conciliatory tone on the areas (and there are quite a few) where Labour, LD, Green can easily agree. Contrast it with Labour's eagerness to stress the legitimacy of the concerns of Reform switchers and it's not great.

It's driven by the fact that the Greens are frequently attacking Labour for doing things that Labour's voters object to, and Labour are attacking the Greens for saying things Labour's voters like. Only one of those strategies is sensible, irrespective of who you support.

In isolation it doesn't, but if it's used as a starting point to deride a lot of other policy directions which Labour's core voters are sympathetic to (silly voters! the Greens believe in these things so you can't possibly support them!) it's not going to help winning back voters Labour needs.

I'm not sure they think that's a thing, but would be prepared to stand against it if they came across any.

The impression Labour sometimes gives is that it's standing against 'false hope' because it believes the term is tautological.