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Howard Beckett

Francesca Albanese slams European countries for intimidating those who would stand against genocide.

And tells us to maintain hope:

“Now all of us must redouble our efforts”

5:52 PM · Aug 17, 2025
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Israel Exposed @xIsraelExposedx · 6h Israelis have realized that the world and mainstream media is turning on them. They are now 'protesting' in order to cover up the fact that almost all Israeli jews support the ethnic cleansing and ongoing genocide. Dont fall for it. Elder Speech @elderspeech Mass protests in Israel are being used as a smokescreen. The majority may still back the state’s violent policies, but media focuses on the dissent to distract from widespread support for ethnic cleansing and the ongoing genocide in Palestine. 9:41 PM · Aug 17, 2025 ·

Could be. I've seen several people suggest it's not as it seems.
The account that replied - I'm convinced it's an AI bot. It creates new tweets as well. I usually see these summaries of the tweet they replied to. Always this flat tone. I've asked, they never reply. Bot then.

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Ami Dar @AmiDar Wow. Who knew there were so many “Hamas supporters” in Israel. 300,000 protesting in Tel Aviv right now, after 2.5 million gathered around the country today. Imagine a day-long protest with 80 million people in the U.S. Enough. Let life win. Image Last edited 6:22 PM · Aug 17, 2025

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'Israeli police are viciously attacking protesters in Tel Aviv tonight, where more than 300,000 rallied against the war.

Netanyahu, his coalition, and their supporters have been inciting against the protesters, labeling them ‘Hamas supporters.’'

8:41 PM · Aug 17, 2025
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Nicole Jenes
@NicoleJenes1

CALL TO ACTION 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
Let’s unite all in this action! Do your own video about it, use the hashtag and share in every language! #StrikeForGaza21Aug

12:32 PM · Aug 17, 2025
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Lot to look at. If you still have Twitter and want to browse, here are the search results for: '@guardian ihra definition until:2018-12-30 since:2018-01-01'

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Frank Owen's Legendary Paintbrush🥀🇵🇸🇱🇧🇾🇪 @OwenPaintbrush This is the part of Labour's code on antisemitism that Margaret Hodge and her fanclub object to. They say Labour must adopt the IHRA definition in full without caveats or clarifications. Except it isn't. It's from a 2016 report on antisemitism that Chuka Umunna helped write. Image 24. We broadly accept the IHRA definition, but propose two additional clarifications to ensure that freedom of speech is maintained in the context of discourse about Israel and Palestine, without allowing antisemitism to permeate any debate. The definition should include the following statements: • It is not antisemitic to criticise the Government of Israel, without additional evidence to suggest antisemitic intent. • It is not antisemitic to hold the Israeli Government to the same standards as other liberal democracies, or to take a particular interest in the Israeli Government's policies or actions, without additional evidence to suggest antisemitic intent. 25. We recommend that the IHRA definition, with our additional caveats, should be formally adopted by the UK Government, law enforcement agencies and all political parties, to assist them in determining whether or not an incident or discourse can be regarded as antisemitic. 8:44 AM · Jul 19, 2018

Chuka Umunna was my MP back then. I probably voted for him. By 2018, he had joined in on the smear campaign against Corbyn.

Just looked to see if I could find the paper but I'm getting further sidetracked. There's mountains to look at.

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Over the weekend, Sajid Javid, the home secretary, called on Corbyn to resign over the issue as the Conservatives sought to capitalise on the row. The president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews said Corbyn should apologise and accused the Labour leader of being “evasive”. Marie van der Zyl told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “After days of being evasive, Jeremy Corbyn has now admitted attending a memorial event for the terrorist murders of unarmed athletes. How can you say he is not involved? “In 1972, these are unarmed people who were attending the Olympics, they were savagely mutilated and murdered. There is no reason Jeremy Corbyn should not apologise to the widows and to the victims for this terrible massacre … He needs to also recognise that he can’t cavort with terrorists.” It is not the first time the event in Tunisia has been the subject of controversy. In the run-up to the 2017 general election, Michael Fallon, then the defence secretary, said his presence there showed that Corbyn was “unfit” to be prime minister. Fallon’s accusation was based on an account given by Corbyn about the trip in the Morning Star newspaper in October 2014. He wrote: “Wreaths were laid to mark the 1985 bombing of the PLO HQ and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris in 1991.” He appears to have made a mistake about the dates because the only person killed in Paris was Bseiso in 1992.

Look at this blah blah. You can feel the intensity even now.

Did you remember the thing they're all crying about was 15 YARDS AWAY?

That's how this stuff works. It makes you forget details even if you knew.

Guardian joined in on the smear campaign.

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The Labour MP Luciana Berger said Corbyn needed to apologise. “Being ‘present’ is the same as being involved. When I attend a memorial, my presence alone, whether I lay a wreath or not, demonstrates my association and support. There can also never be a ‘fitting memorial’ for terrorists. Where is the apology?” she said.

Luciana Berger. 'Help! Help! I don't feel safe! I need security!' [there's no one around]. She's in the House of Lords now.

Corbyn got pushed into 'apologising' like this a lot. He would eventually give in after many months. And still got criticised for it.

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I was looking for the Guardian article that mentioned Margaret Hodge verbally attacking Corbyn, calling him a 'fucking antisemite and a racist' to his face. Little miss butter wouldn't melt...

The information is right there. But when everyone's wound up, upset, screeching and raging at each other, no one has the bandwidth to take it in.

No one steps back, pulls themselves together and gets back to themselves. Everyone gets swept along in the tsunami of raging hate.

I'm worried.

The wreath-laying took place at an event at the Palestinian martyrs’ cemetery in Tunisia during a visit by Corbyn in 2014, a year before he became the party’s leader. There is a memorial to the victims of the 1985 bombing at the cemetery, although it is described as being 15 yards away from where Corbyn was pictured.

Daily Mail saved wreathgate for the IHRA definition, to create more noise, more hate towards Corbyn, and push it through. The photo actually dated from 2014.

And that's how the IHRA definition of antisemitism was made law. There you go.

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Jeremy Corbyn @jeremycorbyn · Aug 13, 2018 Israeli PM @Netanyahu's claims about my actions and words are false. What deserves unequivocal condemnation is the killing of over 160 Palestinian protesters in Gaza by Israeli forces since March, including dozens of children. Quote Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו @netanyahu · Aug 13, 2018 The laying of a wreath by Jeremy Corbyn on the graves of the terrorist who perpetrated the Munich massacre and his comparison of Israel to the Nazis deserves unequivocal condemnation from everyone – left, right and everything in between Jeremy Corbyn @jeremycorbyn The nation state law sponsored by @Netanyahu's government discriminates against Israel's Palestinian minority. I stand with the tens of thousands of Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel demonstrating for equal rights at the weekend in Tel Aviv. 7:39 PM · Aug 13, 2018

Corbyn stood up to Netanyahu. Heard anyone speak to him like this over the last 2 years? No you haven't. They all roll over, 'yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir'.

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A few hours after Corbyn spoke, Benjamin Netanyahu released a statement via his official Twitter account criticising the Labour leader. “The laying of a wreath by Jeremy Corbyn on the graves of the terrorist who perpetrated the Munich massacre and his comparison of Israel to the Nazis deserves unequivocal condemnation from everyone – left, right and everything in between,” the Israeli prime minister wrote.

And that's exactly what happened.

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Photo posted on the Facebook page of the Embassy of Palestine in Tunisia, in October 2014, of Jeremy Corbyn’s visit to the Cemetery of the Martyrs of Palestine, Tunis. Photograph: Embassy of the State of Palestine in Tunisia

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Jeremy Corbyn: I was present at wreath-laying but don't think I was involved Labour leader rows with Israeli PM over ceremony for individuals from group behind Munich massacre

Wreathgate was at the same time. Corbyn had amendments for the IHRA definition. You know what happened to them. It's upsetting to look at this again. 😢💔

Jeremy Corbyn: I was present at wreath-laying but don't think I was involved
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JamieSW @jsternweiner According to a recent paper by @rrgould, the UK Government adopted only the IHRA definition, not the accompanying examples. Why is Labour being raked over the coals for not adopting ALL of the IHRA examples, if the Government has not adopted ANY of them? https://philpapers.org/archive/GOULFA.pdf 8:10 PM · Aug 19, 2018

I'm looking for the Guardian article from 2018 but I'm being sidetracked by a lot of good content. eg this tweet, part of a thread.

Legal Form and Legal
Legitimacy: The IHRA
Definition of Antisemitism
as a Case Study in
Censored Speech
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Aaron Bastani @AaronBastani What’s at stake with the IHRA isn’t one’s *right* to criticise Israel, though that is necessary in a free society. It’s about speaking truthfully of a people who have been decimated and invisibilised for a century. That persists every day before us. We are obliged to name it. Image: Grieving Palestinina father holds up body of deceased child wrapped in a white shroud 9:36 PM · Aug 15, 2018

@aaronjbastani.bsky.social in 2018, when the definition was being made law.

We tried so hard to push back, but the power behind the smear campaign was immense. USA and Israel, our media, both Tories and Labour, the entire country turned against Corbyn, culture, society. 😢

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My conversation with Grok last night showed it's biased towards the IHRA definition.

The Problem with Defining Antisemitism Kenneth Stern helped write a definition now endorsed by more than forty countries. Why does he believe it’s causing harm?

The author of the IHRA definition of antisemitism has warned of its misuse.

The Problem with Defining Antisemitism
Kenneth Stern helped write a definition now endorsed by more than forty countries. Why does he believe it’s causing harm?
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It's important because Grok has been sabotaged twice in as many months, and the smear campaign against Corbyn and Zarah, and also I bet any money Zohran Mamdani, will pick up. Are picking up.

Here's the whole conversation.

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Babs 💙🐝⌛️🦋 @babs05.bsky.social @Babs_SK · 17h I want to know how Israel's actions in Palestine have impacted Jewish people worldwide. And does the IHRA definition make things worse? Grok @grok · 17h Israel's actions in Gaza post-Oct 7 correlate with a global antisemitism surge (ADL 2024: +140% US incidents; CAM 2025: +108% worldwide), increasing assaults (up 77%), harassment, and Jewish emigration fears (e.g., 20% UK Jews per CST). Direct causation debated; much tied to anti-Israel protests crossing into hate. IHRA aids detection but critics (HRW, JDA) argue it conflates valid criticism with antisemitism, stifling speech and polarizing communities, potentially worsening intra-Jewish divides. Babs 💙🐝⌛️🦋 @babs05.bsky.social @Babs_SK · 17h Is there data that doesn't conflate valid criticism with antisemitism? Babs 💙🐝⌛️🦋 @babs05.bsky.social @Babs_SK Is that a no or are you not allowed? 6:27 AM · Aug 17, 2025

Here's where Grok left it last night. It stopped replying.

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ustin @Mind0fJustin · 1h according to the IHRA defintion, accusing israel of genocide is considered antisemitism. That means basically every human rights organization in the world is antisemitic Patrick C @mumps__ · 1h The No.1 reason to implement the deeply flawed IHRA definitions was to silence pro-Palestinian voices. Especially those in politics and institutions. Corbyn did capitulate. Genocide supporters have no control of the vast majority of organisations which don't use it. James Clouting @james_clouting · 34m She's right! #ItWasAScam - which has led to Starmer & co being complicit in a genocide. Brian Robinson @Brian11202466 · 29m Gosh this is so badly worded:"The definition includes holding Jews responsible for Israel’s actions and comparing its policies to those of the Nazis." The ambiguity is dangerous!

Lot of good replies. A few more.

Evan Cull 💚🟣 @EvanCull didn't 'capitulate', the problem is the media pressure for the adoption of the IHRA definition tries to conflate hatred towards an ethnic group with criticism of the actions of a nation state, under an elected government, it's a haphazard definition that creates double standards 10:26 PM · Aug 17, 2025 · 199 Views Evan Cull 💚🟣 @EvanCull · 21m particularly with regards to international law. Evan Cull 💚🟣 @EvanCull · 20m it's an exclusivity bubble.

No point asking Grok. I did last night and broke it. Ok, I didn't break it, I found its limit.

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Dominic Penna @DominicPenna Board of Deputies highly critical of Sultana tonight: “Calling the recognition of the IHRA definition of antisemitism a ‘capitulation’ is a grave insult “Those who seek to delegitimise the IHRA definition in this way prove themselves to be no friend to the Jewish community” 9:19 PM · Aug 17, 2025

Telegraph journalist continues.

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Dominic Penna @DominicPenna Jeremy Corbyn “capitulated” on anti-Semitism as Labour leader, his co-leader Zarah Sultana has claimed “We have to build on the strengths of Corbynism… We also have to recognise its limitations… It capitulated to the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism” From telegraph.co.uk 9:16 PM · Aug 17, 2025

Puh. Telegraph. Which nobody reads! 😂
Their circulation collapsed and the paper had to be sold.

None of our mainstream media has the power it used to have, not after their complicity in #GazaGenocide They haven't realised yet.

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Zarah Sultana MP @zarahsultana The smears won’t work this time. I say it loudly and proudly: I’m an anti-Zionist. Print that. Quote Dominic Penna @DominicPenna · 1h Jeremy Corbyn “capitulated” on anti-Semitism as Labour leader, his co-leader Zarah Sultana has claimed “We have to build on the strengths of Corbynism… We also have to recognise its limitations… It capitulated to the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism” https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/08/17/corbyn-wrong-capitulate-anti-semitism-says-sultana 9:27 PM · Aug 17, 2025

Good on you, @zarahsultana.bsky.social!
I stand with you. Solidarity.

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Tehran Tadhg @TadhgHickey The entity effectively shut down its economy today with a day of strikes & disruption, not to protest against the genocide of Palestinians but to object to any more Israelis getting hurt as the extermination & ethnic cleansing reaches its final stages. There's no reforming a society like that. 8:51 PM · Aug 17, 2025 ·

There was a day of strikes across Israel today. For the majority, this is true, but it's not for the Standing Together movement. It's a small movement but I was glad to see the numbers.

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