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Adult. no stunt 1D fan interest in queerness + closeting in music industry, and how it’s handled by the not-so-truthful press focuses on 1D, TSwift, and other historic and current musicians + actors

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I don’t know if it was a single or an album, but the person that played that song for me back then would play that along with “A Moment Like This”, I feel like?

It was on repeat in the car.

09.02.2025 00:32 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

I know of Leona as “x factor artist, person in the Syco Cinematic Universe”

and not “singer of ____ song” or “this/that album”

but I checked the song “Bleeding Love” because title sounded familiar, and I know that one!!

I know ALL the words of the chorus, it was a big hit in the US 2007-2008.

09.02.2025 00:31 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 2    📌 0
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Performed with Taylor on stage
London June 22, 2018

First 1D member to wear a rainbow item in a music video! 2012, during the One Thing mv with a guitar strap

Introduced his 2020 tour wearing a shirt of queer kissing

“In all your gorgeous colors, I promise that I’ll love you”

#friendsofDorothea

08.02.2025 02:59 — 👍 12    🔁 2    💬 0    📌 0

So you can have disgust for the Dem leadership, but queer women watching their community’s rights being stripped away, and watching thousands of children die (and fundraising for those children) - they can’t express disgust??

Different rules for you and Chappell?

03.02.2025 02:17 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0
"Right now, it's more important than ever to use your vote, and I will do whatever it takes to protect people's civil rights, especially the LGBTQ+ community," she tells me in August.
"My ethics and values will always align with that, and that hasn't changed with a different nominee. I feel lucky to be alive during an incredibly historical time period when a woman of color is a presidential nominee."

"Right now, it's more important than ever to use your vote, and I will do whatever it takes to protect people's civil rights, especially the LGBTQ+ community," she tells me in August. "My ethics and values will always align with that, and that hasn't changed with a different nominee. I feel lucky to be alive during an incredibly historical time period when a woman of color is a presidential nominee."

So until you hold accountability to the leaders you support, you’re not going to be morally safe to be around.

Chappell said to go vote, she encouraged her followers to go vote. But she wasn’t going to give a blank check, ra-ra support to people who harm.

If you READ it, she voted the same as you

03.02.2025 01:43 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

So you can go “oh, those youths” but you’re not listening to those youths when they tell your candidate to stop killing hundreds of thousands of people.

Morally bankrupt.

And you’re not listening when they’re turning down Pride at WH, bc of trans harm by Biden administration.

Biden’s doing! His.

03.02.2025 01:41 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

You’re not going to listen, you still haven’t listened to Chappell’s own words.

Youth under 30 stayed home because the administration didn’t listen.

The top concern was “stop killing kids.”

NPR article skipped over discussing nonvoters: Harris lost 6 million base voters.

Killing was an issue!

03.02.2025 01:40 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

That’s a tertiary source, please read the words I have posted for you that are her actual speeches.

03.02.2025 01:36 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

You’re a partisan who didn’t listen to her words. You still haven’t read the text of her words. I handed you her words and you still have NOT read them.

03.02.2025 01:35 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

So you’re like excitedly ready to support the 95% version
‘We’re only 95% as bad!’, when pushing for removing trans rights in June 2024 in the Biden White House
You’re a partisan, treating trans lives like sportsball
She cares in every administration
You just want blue to win.
Not about trans lives.

03.02.2025 01:35 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

So are you saying she should have coddled the Biden administration when it put forth anti-trans medical policies in June?

Should she have said “it’s good enough, that you’re taking away trans rights”?

Should she have been softer on genocide?
Kind to the funders of genocide?

She encouraged voting!

03.02.2025 01:33 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0
thank God I didn't go because they just made a huge statement about trans kids a couple weeks ago," she says, referring to the Biden administration stating its opposition to gender-affirming surgery for transgender minors in June. (The administration would walk back those comments a month later.)

thank God I didn't go because they just made a huge statement about trans kids a couple weeks ago," she says, referring to the Biden administration stating its opposition to gender-affirming surgery for transgender minors in June. (The administration would walk back those comments a month later.)

"I have so many issues with our government in every way," she says. "There are so many things that I would want to change. So I don't feel pressured to endorse someone. There's problems on both sides. I encourage people to use your critical thinking skills, use your vote
- vote small, vote for what's going on in your city." The change she wants to see in the US in this election year, she says instantly, is "trans rights. They cannot have cis people making decisions for trans people, period."

"I have so many issues with our government in every way," she says. "There are so many things that I would want to change. So I don't feel pressured to endorse someone. There's problems on both sides. I encourage people to use your critical thinking skills, use your vote - vote small, vote for what's going on in your city." The change she wants to see in the US in this election year, she says instantly, is "trans rights. They cannot have cis people making decisions for trans people, period."

Roan opted to turn down the invite, though there were some who misread what she felt was a pretty clear message. "I saw a couple of TikToks where they were like, 'So she's pro Trump?'" Roan's face contorts into disgust. "It is not so black and white that you hate one and you like the other. No matter how you say it, people are still going to be pissed for fucking some reason. I'm not going to go to the White House because I am not going to be a monkey for Pride. And thank God I didn't go because they just made a huge statement about trans kids a couple weeks ago," she says, referring to the Biden administration stating its opposition to gender-affirming surgery for transgender minors in June. (The administration would walk back those comments a month later.)

Roan opted to turn down the invite, though there were some who misread what she felt was a pretty clear message. "I saw a couple of TikToks where they were like, 'So she's pro Trump?'" Roan's face contorts into disgust. "It is not so black and white that you hate one and you like the other. No matter how you say it, people are still going to be pissed for fucking some reason. I'm not going to go to the White House because I am not going to be a monkey for Pride. And thank God I didn't go because they just made a huge statement about trans kids a couple weeks ago," she says, referring to the Biden administration stating its opposition to gender-affirming surgery for transgender minors in June. (The administration would walk back those comments a month later.)

"Right now, it's more important than ever to use your vote, and I will do whatever it takes to protect people's civil rights, especially the LGBTQ+ community," she tells me in August.
"My ethics and values will always align with that, and that hasn't changed with a different nominee. I feel lucky to be alive during an incredibly historical time period when a woman of color is a presidential nominee."

"Right now, it's more important than ever to use your vote, and I will do whatever it takes to protect people's civil rights, especially the LGBTQ+ community," she tells me in August. "My ethics and values will always align with that, and that hasn't changed with a different nominee. I feel lucky to be alive during an incredibly historical time period when a woman of color is a presidential nominee."

As always, going to tertiary and secondary sources, and not the original

Those shorten the context and bake in added controversy/opinion. The recap version of an article training you to dislike what she said.

www.teenvogue.com/story/chappe...

Original of yours:
www.theguardian.com/music/2024/s...

03.02.2025 01:31 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

You didn’t read the speeches, still.

It’s so clear that you haven’t bothered to read her political words of 2024, and are reacting to soundbites of what you *didn’t* fully read.

Reading is fundamental.

03.02.2025 01:15 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

“Youth turnout was pathetic” - maybe if you listened to what the youths were protesting about?

Like what she was saying on stage at Gov Ball? Bc her youth turnout was not pathetic, and her morals exceed yours and exceed JB’s.

Listen to her. Stop avoiding reading her words.

03.02.2025 01:13 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

You’re making excuses for why you haven’t read her own words before criticizing her.

You don’t even know what she said.

Uninformed and complaining, but haven’t learned from her speeches at Gov Ball, about Pride Month, and her voting-but-not-endorsing because of harms done.

03.02.2025 01:12 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

Until you can find HER own words, and have read HER words, you’re just babbling about what you want to babble about
Not listening to key ppl in the constituency your politician NEEDS to stay relevant
The campaign flopped bc of not listening, not respecting marginalized voices.
You haven’t listened.

03.02.2025 01:11 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

You don’t even know what I’m referring to regarding June 2024 and what her White House demands were, and how she and the last administration interfaced.

Or her statements about endorsement and voting. Or her Gov Ball speech.

Just doing your “my side” sportsball politicking, yet not having a clue.

03.02.2025 01:09 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

You’re announcing you did NOT read her actual statement, clearly. 😬

She announced who she was voting for, and she spoke up on the communities that mattered to her

And she urged the political party she affiliates with to not be spineless, and protect trans people. In summer 2024!

WH didn’t listen.

03.02.2025 01:01 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0
Highlighted section of text, which is repeated in next photo:

 You know, clubs were open till 5:00 a.m. There were gay clubs. In even the late 60s, it was a bit of an open city. So as young ne'er-do-wells, we fit very - you know, we fit very comfortably in that picture.

Highlighted section of text, which is repeated in next photo: You know, clubs were open till 5:00 a.m. There were gay clubs. In even the late 60s, it was a bit of an open city. So as young ne'er-do-wells, we fit very - you know, we fit very comfortably in that picture.

Whole text

GROSS: During your early years as a musician, you were in Asbury Park, boardwalk, carnival atmosphere.
What did you love about that kind of urban beach, (laughter) you know?
SPRINGSTEEN: Yeah.
GROSS: And the - you know, Madame Marie and all of the - like, all of the boardwalk regulars. You made great stories out of those characters, great songs out of those characters. But what appealed to you about knowing them and writing about them?
SPRINGSTEEN: It was just my location at the time. I didn't move to Asbury with the thought of - you know, it wasn't an anthropological...
GROSS: But you connected in some way.
SPRINGSTEEN: ...Reason. But I went, and I just fit in there. Asbury was down on its luck but not as bad as it would get. And so there was a lot of room to move. You know, clubs were open till 5:00 a.m. There were gay clubs. In even the late '60s, it was a bit of an open city.
So as young neer-do-wells, we fit very - you know, we fit very comfortably in that picture. And then when I went to write, I just wrote about what was around me. It fired my imagination. It was - of course, was a colorful locale.
The city was filled with characters and plenty of people at loose ends. And so it just became a very natural thing to write about. I didn't give it too much thought at the time. But I did think that it gave me a very individual identity in that if I was going to go out into the musical world on a national level, I was very interested in being connected to my home, my home state. There wasn't anyone else writing in this way about these things at that time. So it was something I did very intentionally, in a sense, as creating a certain

Whole text GROSS: During your early years as a musician, you were in Asbury Park, boardwalk, carnival atmosphere. What did you love about that kind of urban beach, (laughter) you know? SPRINGSTEEN: Yeah. GROSS: And the - you know, Madame Marie and all of the - like, all of the boardwalk regulars. You made great stories out of those characters, great songs out of those characters. But what appealed to you about knowing them and writing about them? SPRINGSTEEN: It was just my location at the time. I didn't move to Asbury with the thought of - you know, it wasn't an anthropological... GROSS: But you connected in some way. SPRINGSTEEN: ...Reason. But I went, and I just fit in there. Asbury was down on its luck but not as bad as it would get. And so there was a lot of room to move. You know, clubs were open till 5:00 a.m. There were gay clubs. In even the late '60s, it was a bit of an open city. So as young neer-do-wells, we fit very - you know, we fit very comfortably in that picture. And then when I went to write, I just wrote about what was around me. It fired my imagination. It was - of course, was a colorful locale. The city was filled with characters and plenty of people at loose ends. And so it just became a very natural thing to write about. I didn't give it too much thought at the time. But I did think that it gave me a very individual identity in that if I was going to go out into the musical world on a national level, I was very interested in being connected to my home, my home state. There wasn't anyone else writing in this way about these things at that time. So it was something I did very intentionally, in a sense, as creating a certain

The interview portion about alpha male stage persona, excerpt,

GROSS: So do you think that your stage persona draws both from, like, the angry and uninhibited side of you and the more inhibited, timid side of you?
SPRINGSTEEN: I think it's both there. I think if you just
- you know, I think plenty of folks if you just looked at the outside, it can read - you know, it's pretty alpha male, you know? Which is a little ironic because, you know, it's - that was personally never exactly really me.
I think I created my particular stage persona out of my dad's life. And perhaps I even built it to suit him to some degree. I was looking for - when I was looking for a voice to mix with my voice, I put on my father's work clothes, and as I say in the book, and I went to work, whether it was the result of wanting to emulate him so I felt closer or whether it was - I wanted - as I say in the book, I wanted to be the reasonable voice of revenge for what I'd seen his life come to.
It was all of these things. And it was an unusual creation, but most of these - most people's stage personas are created out of the flotsam and jetsam of their internal geography. And they re trying to create something that solves a series of very complex problems inside of them or in their history. And I think when I unknowingly - when I went to do that, that's what I was - I was trying to integrate all of these very difficult things that I'd been unable to integrate in my life and in my life with my parents.
GROSS: If youre just joining us, I'm talking to Bruce Springsteen. And he has a new memoir that's quite terrific. And it's called "Born To Run."

The interview portion about alpha male stage persona, excerpt, GROSS: So do you think that your stage persona draws both from, like, the angry and uninhibited side of you and the more inhibited, timid side of you? SPRINGSTEEN: I think it's both there. I think if you just - you know, I think plenty of folks if you just looked at the outside, it can read - you know, it's pretty alpha male, you know? Which is a little ironic because, you know, it's - that was personally never exactly really me. I think I created my particular stage persona out of my dad's life. And perhaps I even built it to suit him to some degree. I was looking for - when I was looking for a voice to mix with my voice, I put on my father's work clothes, and as I say in the book, and I went to work, whether it was the result of wanting to emulate him so I felt closer or whether it was - I wanted - as I say in the book, I wanted to be the reasonable voice of revenge for what I'd seen his life come to. It was all of these things. And it was an unusual creation, but most of these - most people's stage personas are created out of the flotsam and jetsam of their internal geography. And they re trying to create something that solves a series of very complex problems inside of them or in their history. And I think when I unknowingly - when I went to do that, that's what I was - I was trying to integrate all of these very difficult things that I'd been unable to integrate in my life and in my life with my parents. GROSS: If youre just joining us, I'm talking to Bruce Springsteen. And he has a new memoir that's quite terrific. And it's called "Born To Run."

A quote of Bruce bringing up, unprompted, him going to gay clubs in Asbury in the late 1960s, the inspiration for his music writing.
He would’ve been 18 in ‘67, turned 20 in 1969

in the interview, he describes how his “alpha male” stage persona / image isn’t really him

www.npr.org/2017/09/15/5...

02.02.2025 23:06 — 👍 3    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0
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A Savior, Risen from the Mean, Masculine Streets of Philadelphia: Bruce Springsteen’s Queer Empathy and Its Filmic Form “This guy, call him Bruce – no he’s not a queer, thank God, sir – will be a national hero.”                                                                        ……

Bibliography on Bruce Springsteen
benjamindelvecchio.wordpress.com/2019/04/26/a...

www.researchgate.net/profile/Rosa...

nonewmusicclub.wordpress.com/2017/08/28/b...

www.salon.com/2016/04/11/d...

Slight disagree, still good articles:
medium.com/drop-the-nee...

www.thenation.com/article/arch...

02.02.2025 23:06 — 👍 3    🔁 1    💬 1    📌 1

Women, girls, nonbinary people, AND trans men.

Women can get pregnant!

But so do girls who are at legal and medical risk (can sign for treatment of their baby once born, but not for themselves)

Trans men often gaps without gynecology care while pregnant; providers won’t accept them as patients.

02.02.2025 20:57 — 👍 4    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

my fave queer resistance anthem that got me through 2022

31.01.2025 19:43 — 👍 10    🔁 1    💬 0    📌 0

Just looked at stats: it’s possible that the top spot for most works of literature (love stories) written about two people might go to Jeon Jungkook and Kim Taehyung BTS
They have less current works on one metric, but I could see how other data sets could set them up for higher totals.

Close count.

29.01.2025 07:53 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

Is there anybody on Earth that has more works of literature, love stories, written about them than Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson?

[this is not a debate about the veracity of rumors, just a question on if anyone has reached that level of folktale - 46,000+ written works in just one depository.]

29.01.2025 07:34 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

Cool way to check how often you alt-text

Alt text is the caption/description on images so they can be seen without sight, and when the image doesn’t load, or if you just don’t know a person and click to see a new celeb name
here’s the way to get it so it makes it automatic:
bsky.app/settings/acc...

29.01.2025 03:25 — 👍 3    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0
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a woman is playing a piano while swimming in the water Alt: Taylor and a sinking piano for her 2020 music video

part of the joke in swimlor /sinklor is providing ‘evidence’, so if you have evidence of Louis swimming you win (I haven’t seen that itview b4)

Things like this being the “evidence” she can’t swim. Falling into a pool, for fun, or being on a floatie. AOTV/LTWT gave a lot of not-swimming Lou content

27.01.2025 14:30 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

it’s a joke! I believe it was bleedover from a “Can Taylor S swim, or will she sink?” joke, team sinklor or swimlor … she’s lived near water and has pools, she (allegedly) should know how to swim

James possom was a big promoter of the Louis-cant-swim agenda

Celebs take pics out of water, not IN it

27.01.2025 14:26 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0
Niall Horan Breaks Down 'The Show' Track By Track | Making The Album
YouTube video by Capital Buzz Niall Horan Breaks Down 'The Show' Track By Track | Making The Album

I've had this bookmarked for so long and had only just finally gotten around to watching it.

It's always interesting to hear what artists say about the songs they write. Especially when they take a deep dive into explaining the writing process like coming up with the melodies, concept and lyrics.

25.01.2025 07:39 — 👍 8    🔁 3    💬 2    📌 1
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a coffin with flowers in front of it and a person peeking out of it Alt: a coffin with flowers in front of it and taylor swift peeking out of it at her funeral, in the Anti-Hero music video scene

also, this album is about her death ™️, turning in the Manuscript

“changing to outrun the desertion of you” - she’s describing her Eras. Fan desertion

She discussed ‘old age’ ™️ on Miss Americana, about 30. She’s 35.

The generational impact of her work is a theme in her work this album. (Clara Bow)

25.01.2025 08:32 — 👍 2    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

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