Rural Anarchy

Had he been just slightly smarter and left his phone at home...

Absolutely fucking insufferable kid.

You're getting incoherent and nonsensical. Combine that with still using Substack after it's well known the platform and monetize literal Nazis is making me want to terminate the very tedious conversation.

I mean, I don't either in the US but it's not impossible. And yeah... My god, the strange bedfellows of the past can get wild!

Most people have a basic idea about modern agriculture and post-Victorian era sanitation. Educating those that might now isn't a bad thing. But how does that tie into fighting a Fascist government consolidating control? You're so out in the weeds that I don't think you even see what we face.

If you think build massive communication networks and media ecosystems on the internet is only the realm of the far right, that's just giving up. But I see you trying to spread your message with a blog. Just kinda wish you weren't using Substack.

Like, these are issues the Boy Scouts handle at camp each year. This does nothing to actually fight the Fascism in power. And definitely has nothing to do with countering the mainstreaming of antisemites... which was the entire point of my post.

This is that appeal to authority I was talking about. Glad for them to be able to agree on when to meet about setting up water filters and how to dig a latrine. Let me know when enough of the population is convinced that shitting in a ditch is better than capitalism and capitalism is finally dead.

I have no idea what you're referencing here.

Yeah, same here. I have lines I won't cross to work with people or orgs, but it's a lot more flexible these days. Like, exclude my trans homies and we're done. But being a shitlib that's just annoying? I'll work with that these days.

My friends here don't have time for us to build some magical Anarchist consensus based utopia after we defeat global Capitalism and convince 340 million people we're right.

But if you'll excuse me, probably going to buy a 12 pack of Modelo and hang out with my friends at the cabinet shop at the end of the road so we can plan what to do if ICE shows up since he only has a green card and most of his employees are undocumented.

You remind me of the people I met in the late 90s rave scene that were sure if they convinced the world to abide by the raver PLUR model, that we'd have a utopia. Peace, Love, Unity, Respect. Everyone on MDMA at the raves agreed. Wouldn't that be nice!

The "anarchism" you're talking about is just basic community organizing that humans have done for millennia. You're just enamored with a few capital A anarchists with the ability to write riffing on what indigenous people and rural country folks have always known.

Being patronized by a self described "baby" to political organizing is getting a little old. I'm probably the same as the handful of older people you know that you're trying to use some appeal to authority to argue your juvenile points. Probably been organizing since you were in diapers.

And working with the millions of conservatives that reject the Authoritarianism of Trump and MAGA and aren't complete vile bigots. Aside from meeting rules, look into popular fronts in previous fights against Fascism.

Creating a pure, theoretically sound Anarchist society sounds real nice. It's also all but impossible and far too idealistic to meet this moment.

Using existing systems and networks to organize against what's happening is a necessity. But oops, that means working with churches and liberals!

I'm not trying to organize 340 million people with that approach because it would take decades to spread the idea of mutual aid or dual power across the US. Multi-generational project. Add in the word Hippie or "speaking feather" and it takes a century in this country.

And yes... Rural.

Where my neighbors on our private road, of all kinds of political stripes, organized a coop to provide ourselves with water, trash disposal, and road maintenance services ourselves. You should try leading real organizing in your community.

Baby for sure. You're talking about proposing an Anarchist method of conducting meetings as the answer to urgent societal issues that are killing people, while I'm talking about building vast networks that influence millions using the right's systems against them.

Referencing a decade of personal experience across multiple Anarchist and Leftist orgs that require full consensus to plan any action, protest, distro, or even when to meet next.

But a meeting style opposes Fascism and bigotry in the now how?

An ICE raid in your neighborhood is immediate. The killing of fisherman in the Caribbean is immediate. Troops on the street is immediate. Anarchists being arrested for zines is immediate.

You don't get to do your MULTI-GENERATIONAL spread of Anarchism if Fascism isn't IMMEDIATELY defeated.

You're proposing a slightly more inclusive Roberts Rules of Order for conducting meetings, one that works even less often, as a solution to defeating fascism and the rising tide of mainstream antisemitism and bigotry? Seriously?

What exactly are they doing that will have any impact on the US going Fascist and the mainstreaming of antisemitism (the subject of my post)? The feather passing is going to come to consensus and instantly Fascism and global capitalism is gone? They can't even agree on the next meeting date.

We're talking about building strong networks from existing broad coalitions that includes some with significant current political power and organizing. Very possible and already happening. A council of 20 Anarchists passing a feather praying for consensus is your suggestion as an immediate solution?

Oh damn. I know the amount of work that takes. Hopefully he can find something that works with with the farm goals.

Might be willing to trade you on local Nazis! Local here is Aryan Freedom Network and Patriot Front. And now that Proud Boys lawyer clown that represents both in court is running for Justice of the Peace a county over now. Wish they would all just [redacted to maintain BSKY account].

Might be a thing where those of us that do know will have to point it out to everyone else over and over and over until most people get it. As I've heard it put by a fellow researcher... "It's the SYTEMS, stupid!!" But feels like it's always Head-->Wall

That's horrible news any time, but right in the middle of the holiday season is an extra gut punch. Wishing y'all the best.