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And some things they did really were stupid and counterproductive! But also the backlash was motivated and intense right away, so it was a tough spot to be in for non-assholes who just wanted to do the right thing

The scary truth is that we’ve (mostly) eliminated the worst, scariest viruses and most illnesses we vax for just aren’t that catastrophic on a personal level—of course, thinking it vaccination as a personal protection hides what it’s really about, which is protecting the aggregate.

Oh yeah. At this point I don’t even know when I have covid or a cold because I have covid-like symptoms like half the year anyway.

But yeah now half the country is against the idea that infectious diseases are bad.

Not that it would have helped with certain mindsets, but I also think a more “look here’s what we think will help now, but that may change tomorrow, cause that’s how shit like this works” might have been better. I’d be interested to see how that was done in other places.

Thats to be expected with the kind of virus it is. Also, almost everyone has gotten covid and it’s … not that bad. But those are the people who didnt die.

Well she may not be as off as this one is. Or she’s able to compartmentalize useful stuff from culture war stuff.

No I mean the books, not the people. They’re pretty normal and I don’t imagine they’d be into something as strident as this.

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In Germany the states of Niedersachsen and Sachsen-Anhalt are abbreviated at NN and ST … for some reason

And as for what offends pious Jewish sensibilities, then we’re getting into the territory where the basic religious doctrines of any one religion will at least sometimes be offensive to others.

I mean in my experience at least if you’re going to hate Jews, you’ll just use “Jews” negatively. Also the kind of people who actually know that the Pharisee sect is the origin of modern Judaism are either highly sympathetic to Jews already or already hate them.

I get it, but I was literally quoting a specific verse.

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Me too just now

Like It just never occurred to be that an artists’ views should reflect my own.

This question is always so funny because the concept of liking an artist and not liking their views is something all normie conservatives (RIP) have always taken for granted.

I don’t say Matthew 23:4 was metaphorical. I said it’s a common metaphorical usage. I’m also not modifying quoting the Bible in inter-Christian contexts. Should I stop calling Jesus the Messiah too?

I invoked a common metaphorical usage of Matthew 23:4, but go off.

What do you think I’m talking about? Like, the actual historical Jewish religious movement?

My thing is, it’s an overblown, overpoliticized issue, but also sex-segregated sports only makes sense in the context of how male/female *bodies* develop.

In this context, the whole thing about how women shouldn’t work and couples should have as many children as they can and move mountains to homeschool. None of this is required or necessarily even encouraged yet it’s treated by these people as if it’s standard for Catholic life.

The whole thing reminds me very much of the Catholic anti-evolution stuff … just completely unmoored from where even the most orthodox of orthodox theologians and prelates were not saying anything like these people say today

Yeah that’s him. This book is a good snapshot of just how … not insanely neurotic the actual theologians were, and these guys were well-known conservatives!

Was this John Ford? He’s speculated to be the actual drafter of the document.

And it’s not even just the text — there’s a whole literature surrounding it, and entirely absent is the stuff you hear from modern trads.

Even funnier is when you read stuff from the 40s and 50s, and it’s pretty … normal.

Everyone was in the 60s. But it’s funny too because if you read all the moral theologians who upheld HV, they were all like pretty “lenient” on what the “serious and just reasons” are. 21stcentury American trads made up their own bullshit.

Oh yeah that’s the Fr Ripperger line I heard on NFP, probably mental health too.

Relies on a “sola bad translation” reading of HV, and like 8 billion other official magisterial documents

(One reason I call Fr Ripperger a liar is that I’ve heard him use the old bad translation of HV that says “grave reasons”, which is extremely dishonest.)

Same person? I’m not going to read this because it triggers scruples and bad memories lol, but these people are such Pharisees in the “tying up heavy burdens” sense. Lemme guess that mental health is not a serious issue too.

I know a lot of pretty normal Catholic women who have those “Theology of the Home” books, and those seem less, uh, opinionated, even though the author herself seems a bit, uh