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- Not Arabs, but Jews from Arab-majority countries.
- Most of them reject the term and prefer "Mizrahi" instead, especially since it includes Persian Jews etc.

You're not only insisting that "Arab Jews" are Arabs (they're not), you want to force a label on them.

People with no family or family history there inevitably end up cheering for laundry.

I think it's significant that some of the most high-profile victims of 10/7 were peace activists, and a lot of the left in other countries readily wrote them off as either complicit by way of being Israeli or acceptable losses in a resistance movement. That's a vile slap in the face.

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And this becomes a problem when things aren't fact-checked, because just as the errors are stochastic, they're also stochastically distributed, you don’t know where they are until you deeply dive into the content seeing for them: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfN...

You'd think that white leftists would see her Arabic surname and maybe check to see if she herself is Palestinian before jumping in to call her an AIPAC shill who doesn't care about Palestinians...

but to be real, they probably wouldn't care even if they knew.

Should he have green beans shoved up his nose? I don't know, I'm neither a farmer nor an otolaryngologist.

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The most fundamental political debate of our time: You are integrated into and have responsibility for our complex, imperfect society vs. Nuh-uh.

There is no "we were worried we'd lose an actual battle, that's why we murdered unarmed civilians instead" exception. That kind of defeats the idea of war crimes as a category.

You're explicitly defending the murder of infants and desecration of bodies and you think it's a slander those got mixed?

Hamas could have attacked military targets. They have that capability! They've done it before!
But THEY CHOSE to rape, murder, and abduct Israeli civilians. They made that choice & you are defending their atrocities. You're no different from the people saying the IDF has no choice but to level Gaza.

enough with the fedposting

Call me a bleeding heart but I think it's fine to publicly mourn the loss of Israeli life or the loss of Palestinian life without reflexively mentioning the other in the same breath.

The circumstances like the government murder of Shafiq Ades? Or are you repeating that openly antisemitic government's claims that the attacks on Iraqi Jews were orchestrated by shadowy Zionist agents?

I ALREADY KNOW THIS HISTORY, BUDDY.

Judaism is an ethnoreligion, just like Hmong or Druze.

The only people who are both Arabs and Jews are Arabs who convert (and their descendants) and people with Arab and Jewish parents etc.
You are pretending Mizrahim are Arabs, when they're not and generally reject vehemently such a label.

Please read and comprehend my comments before replying to them!

When two nations both have a valid claim to a homeland there, then the only fair thing is to share. It is not a very big land but there is enough for a Palestine and an Israel.

Ramallah is in Palestine. Tel Aviv is in Israel. Etc.

She is literally Palestinian and speaks out against the genocide frequently. God forbid she show some compassion for Israeli victims too!

Avi Shlaim, along with his family, was thrown out of Iraq precisely because they are Jews and not Arabs lol. Notice he doesn't actually call himself an "Arab Jew" but rather an "Arab-Jew": a Jew from an Arab nation.

Jews and Arabs are two different ethnocultural groups, dawg.

Also weird that you single out Ashkenazim. Iraqi and Persian Jews' ancestors, e.g., were expelled at the same time. Do you think the Middle East is just one big amorphous blob?

"If you're ethnically cleansed from your homeland and banned from returning for a long time it's not yours anymore but instead belongs solely to the people who live there."

Yeah buddy, Israeli settlers in the West Bank LOVE this one. So do anti-Native racists here in America. What's the time limit?

The funniest one I'm on is "academic gatekeepers" or something

it's just me and one other guy, and I'm on there for not taking seriously a preprint which cites for its central argument...another preprint which makes claims without introducing any evidence. that's just an opinion written in LaTeX!

a valid claim to a homeland there but the Jewish claim to a homeland there is older by a millennium.

Also your timeline is all out of whack. By the time violence between Jews and Arabs became common, the UK *literally already controlled* Palestine & was looking to *reduce* its presence/involvement.

"Arab Jews"? Do you think you could name an example of a person who is an Arab Jew?

Anyway, sorry about your weird revisionist history, but Jews were in fact there first. Arabs weren't really present in that part of the Levant until the 600s CE. This is not to say that Palestinians don't also have

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That's categorically false. Jordanian forces razed the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, destroying 22 historic synagogues, and expelled its population. Smaller-scale expulsions by militia were common throughout.

There is no crime committed by one side in 1948 that the other side was not also guilty of.

3. If your response to the fact that the Arab Nations ethnically cleansed their Jewish minorities (first Palestine and Jordan during the partition war, then others in the coming years) is to claim it was actually a vast Israeli false-flag conspiracy...you're just a garden-variety antisemite.

1. I cannot explain to you any more simply that events in 1950-51 cannot affect events in 1948. That is how time's arrow works.

2. The sum total of the evidence that Mossad was behind the bombings was that the Iraqi government said so. Obviously they wouldn't lie - just ask Shafiq Ades!

No, you are now claiming that an antisemitic regime in Iraq framing Jews in the 1950s proves that Palestine and Jordan didn't expel Jews in 1948 (the same way Israel expelled Arabs at the same time), despite the abundant and irrefutable evidence that they did.

What are you even doing here?