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Indeed, utterly bonkers

Probably..just sickens me to see that though, it beggars belief that a supposed elite level referee doesn't understand the most basic laws of the game.

Not even a yellow..the ref and VAR should both be fired

That crew literally should not be refereeing at any level..to get that so wrong, with technology..they simply cannot understand the laws. It's not even a yellow.

"A little harsh"..that refereeing crew shouldn't be refereeing, utterly incompetent..not even a yellow, purely incidental/accidental, they are buffoons!

Frustrating that..United were there for the taking, just a huge lack of quality in the final 3rd from Everton/Moyes.

Both can be true..still, I'll never say it is a smart decision for fans to risk doing harm to the team's chances in a crucial moment. There were some Everton fans in the pocket of bidders for the club trying to get us relegated, to devalue a 'distressed asset'. Grim stuff!

Think he's right personally..goes for fans at all clubs. Fans often show incredibly poor judgement with the timing of these things..we've seen it at Everton and it's been an issue at other clubs this year. If the timing impacts important events of the pitch, it lacks IQ.

I think the key here is to think a little on where a tax dodging billionaire who fucked off to Monaco might be coming from..same guy trying to get the state he doesn't pay taxes to, to fund a new stadium for his investment. It's not a good or wholesome place, I can assure you. Ratcliffe is a twat.

He's a political idiot who took Labour back to No10, and much, much smarter than you.

That's one hell of a strange narrative mate. Forest, like us, hired him because they were in a dire state..."drags them into trouble", extremely odd. Dyche is Dyche, Moyes is Moyes..not hugely different at all.

His side had 35 shots tonight..we could only dream of such! We also drew at home with Wolves 🤣

Re: last night - dyche got slaughtered for losing to Bournemouth from being in front, after Iraola made attacking subs. Moyes done exactly the same last night but with options on the bench that dyche could only dream of.

He's fine to have around, my logic is simply.."who is DEFINITELY a first team player"..I can't call him that. He's primarily played RB and we'd all agree we need a proper RB as a huge priority (and new LB). At CB we haven't really tested him over a period or as a partner to Jarrad.

Regular reminder..I was-nae wrong, was I!? I'd seen 6 or 7 Villarreal 90 mins when betting, and I knew. These pro scouts and recruitment teams are thieving a living.

Barry looks god awful mate..say what we want about 'settling', he looks technically woeful in dangerous positions. Dibling will offer something, but £40m..christ, they've had our pants down right and proper.

Barry won't be playing in the EPL for very long..there is nothing to destroy, he is utterly terrible. Complete bust of a signing.

Signed a long deal, we hold all the cards..will take 75/80m at least, they've been told! And setting sentiment aside, centre half is one of the easier positions to find credible players for, if not world beaters.

I'm not particularly upset about him, I'm just telling you that we've spent that significant amount on players who are contributing little to nothing to our first team situation. Drop Travers if it makes you happy, it doesn't change the point at all.

Playing devil's advocate though..applying the same logic, how do you hold any manager accountable for anything? He spent something like £125m in the summer..the majority of the players are either glaringly not good enough (Barry) or don't play (Dibling, Aznou, Rohl). The manager is accountable.

No, I didn't miss them out..they are some of the players in that category of 'good enough to keep at the club and be around', but absolutely nothing at this point worthy of considering them definitive first XI players. And there's zero chance of Barry coming good, he is atrocious.

And I think we'll see that come the season end..I think we'll struggle to exceed the 48 points gained in the past 2 seasons..so if that is the case, and we look back on well over £100m spent, £100m net..it's fair to question the plan and the outlook isn't it.

And indeed, when you zoom out and explore why Moyes is seemingly (strangely to the casual eye) disliked by so many fans of clubs he has managed..it's this..it's the football, the fact there is no plan, nothing progressive, hardly a level difference with good players or bad. Just playing percentages.

The one thing that is factual is the results, we can all agree on that. After that, it's opinion. You say defence, I say a completely inept football performance from start to finish. No plan on the ball, hit and hope, huff and puff nonsense. That creates defensive pressure. Classic 'worst of' Moyes.

Indeed, the irony is..I've been one of the calmest and most staunch defenders of managers going! I just feel, as I've seen before, Moyes gets a very strange double standard applied in his favour. Dyche would be getting CRUCIFIED for this home form, yet Moyes spent £100m net and here we are. Weird.

'Heads falling off' is such a reductive comment. I honestly haven't seen any extreme reactions..just valid criticism, or folks saying what they've been saying consistently. Saying criticism = heads falling off is no more productive than saying the opposite view = "no-standards losers".

Travers, Aznou, Barry, Dibling. In the region of £90m speny..NINETY MILLION English pounds. Whoever is responsible for those decisions should be gone already. That is why fans are pissed, that is why the football remains garbage. Simply setting fire to the funds the new owners made available!

If you want to get re-angry about Everton..consider this: Bournemouth acquired both new fullbacks, Truffert and Jiminez, in the summer..about £12m combined, one signed, one loan. Meanwhile we spent £55m on Aznou and Dibling to barely give them an opportunity even. Utterly inept recruitment.

I haven't seen a single person suggest that is the aim or expectation at this point. But likewise, yes we expect to see an improvement when we've spent what we have and really got so little value from a really terrible set of signings..and particularly more than the dross we've had at home.