I had a little Peugeot - the number escapes me for the moment - from new, that seemed to cost ludicrous amounts every year to MOT, once it got that old. Had to take it back to the dealers for ages because it had a ghost “engine fault” thing that only they could turn off long enough to do MOT!

Not everything on the internet is about Mars.

Ah, thanks! I suppose that must have been the Eastern boundary.

Ha! Interesting. Where is that, about, please?

I only ever see this chap’s output in this form - people posting absurd headlines with his byline below to laugh at. But on that basis alone, I still feel I have sufficient knowledge to suggest that he isn’t really qualified to criticise other people for being “hate filled”.

The ridiculous extension of the wait for settled status isn't about putting up barriers to arrival, it's about putting up barriers to integration for people who have already been here for years. It's agreeing with Farage that these people should be treated with suspicion - and leaving it at that.

Ha ha!

We used to call a boy at school Hobbes because he was … y’know.

Blimey. You now remind me of the tale of the shooting of the polar bear cubs somewhere in Patrick O’Brien and that’s made me sad.

The liver or the bear?

This is not a reasoned political response. Labour has spent two years making all the voting groups who backed the Greens feel unwelcome and unheard, and now attacks them for daring to back someone else. They believe Labour isn’t listening and Starmer seems determined to prove them right

I’m sorry, you are exhibiting the combo of spectacular silliness combined with hyper-partisanship generally associated with the loopy pro-Starmer cohort on here, and there’s about as much point talking to you.

No, everyone starts from zero at each election, obviously! lab and the greens were both *campaigning* for the anti-reform vote, dodgy bar charts and “can’t win here“ leaflets and all.

quite, I was just responding to the (jokey) point made by the previous poster.

This is just silly, as I expect you know. It’s not worth going on with this sort of nonsense.

But it’s likely to be quite a commute! You can only vote once in GE, though, but you can chose where.

You can register to vote at a second, holiday, home. There’s all sorts of weird electoral crimes, so I wouldn’t be too certain it isn’t one, somehow, either.

Yeah - re-read your first para. There’s not meaningful difference between these formulations. And anyway, do you genuinely think that no-one voted for them because they were the best placed anti-reform party? You may want to commend them for positive policies etc, but you can’t seriously say that.

Well, you could say that, which at least would make your statement even more obviously asinine.

Or do you think the Greens *lost* the battle to be the best placed to defeat Reform?

You said that was all he said, and your justification for saying that is that you won’t read what else he said. Anyway, the thing you say is completely untrue is also utterly obviously true. Which doesn’t mean it’s the only thing that’s true. Also, obviously.

Trouble is, he wasn’t the only racist goon standing …

if you say “if all you can say is x…”; and he tells you “no, I also said y and z”; and then you say “but I’m not going to read that”, it doesn’t really justify the “all you said was x” bit, does it?

If you lose badly, the thing to do is give the voters a jolly good telling off.

also, concerning the outcome of Labour's "go fuck yourselves" strategy - we told you so, you fucking fools

I don’t know if the rules have changed, but backalong, when I was an election observer*, pretty much anyone could apply to the EC to be one, it wasn’t any sort of endorsement.

* admittedly, for a respectable organisation.

Dash it, I got 15/2 …

Thought it was the sun shining through bullet holes in a metal door first off. Bit dark for Ian, I thought.

Well, this is pretty dashed extraordinary. I’m astonished.

That’s interesting. Certainly PC sometimes seemed like translators both ways. The logic of that one example - the poll tax thing - though, was said to be that Scots PC didn’t stand up to Gov, or not so successfully, as E/W PC. The former were much smaller then, ofc.