Pretty sure that historically it has not worked out for governments that refused to pay its workers.
Bold move to piss off the very people you need to keep the fascist bureaucracy rolling. I'm sure it'll pair well with not paying the military on the 15th.
07.10.2025 14:35 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
While concerning, the majority of the controlling is done by the guys in dark radar rooms, not the big towers. It is possible to run the country's airspace without manning the towers. Not for long or as efficiently, but it can be done.
Realistically we need ATC to strike, but it's illegal.
07.10.2025 00:52 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
No, Ellis is extremely concerned about the wording. Another hearing on Wednesday to finalize the details.
May order officers to wear name tags or badge numbers so that violations of the TRO can be recorded and identified.
Looks like special protection for "professional press" and not amateurs.
06.10.2025 23:27 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Judge Ellis GRANTS the TRO for the press, restraining ICE from attacking journalists.
This was not a close case at all, and Ellis was not impressed with DOJ's arguments.
06.10.2025 21:47 โ ๐ 226 ๐ 76 ๐ฌ 4 ๐ 4
THE IRONY
06.10.2025 21:21 โ ๐ 14 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
- Judge Ellis is currently weighing a TRO for journalists who have been assaulted by ICE. We are waiting for that result, which should come shortly.
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- Deputy Director of the CIA, Michael Ellis, has promoted himself to Acting General Counsel of the CIA, giving himself the ability to advise himself on the actions of the spy agency.
06.10.2025 21:19 โ ๐ 13 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Today's state of our Democracy, for those of you with real jobs who need the update:
- Judge Perry has effectively allowed Texas NG troops into IL, ruling this afternoon that she needs time to read through the 500-page complaint. Boots on the ground today. Argument set for Thursday.
06.10.2025 21:18 โ ๐ 19 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 3 ๐ 0
As a Millennial I wasn't counting on SSA existing for my retirement, but maybe the Boomers and Gen X will get screwed over even sooner than expected.
06.10.2025 15:52 โ ๐ 7 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 1
Illinois comes out of the gate swinging. Kudos to the attorneys who stayed up past midnight to include the most recent Immergut TRO in this.
storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...
06.10.2025 14:40 โ ๐ 23 ๐ 7 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 1
Okay, but serious question: 400 National Guard troops is not really a lot if you're splitting them up between what state pissed you off lately.
How many troops is Abbott willing to sacrifice to the Great Leader? He's got about 19k soldiers, and then another 4k Air Force. Surely you don't send all?
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06.10.2025 03:30 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Hamilton is requesting a stay.
Immergut immediately denied.
And that's all folks! The Good Guys win, a bit, for now.
06.10.2025 03:20 โ ๐ 14 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Judge Immergut is going to issue a new TRO that will prohibit the activation or relocation of activated NG members from ANY state or DC to Oregon.
She is very, very annoyed. And, may I say, disappointed in the DOJ and Feds.
06.10.2025 03:18 โ ๐ 17 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Kennedy is urging her to include every state NG in her TRO.
06.10.2025 03:15 โ ๐ 6 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
*Immergut
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Immergut: Based on Fed conduct, direct contradiction to my order. I am troubled that apparently TX and CA NG are being sent to OR. Appears to violate 10th Amendment.
Immergent really wants Hamilton to be a Good Guy, because she has asked him several times for his thoughts on this. haha
06.10.2025 03:14 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 3 ๐ 0
Immergut: There are no new issues in Portland. I GRANT SECOND TRO.
Discussing scope now.
06.10.2025 03:12 โ ๐ 16 ๐ 4 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Immergut: What is the harm to CA and OR? (Since they were already activated)
Riley: Damage to sovereign rights. Damage to the morale of soldiers. Reduced ability for CA to utilize troops for CA emergencies if they're in a different state.
Hamilton: We can handle our own law enforcement.
06.10.2025 03:10 โ ๐ 7 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Immergut: If I grant your TRO, and then the 9th Circuit grants the Stay on the first TRO, what is the impact on this theoretical new TRO?
Kennedy: *tags Riley*
Riley: No conflict. New complaint, new TRO. Any stay would not apply to any new ruling.
06.10.2025 03:06 โ ๐ 7 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Kennedy: We're playing Whack-A-Mole. You issue something, Feds find a loophole, we file new TRO request. We need to broaden our request to prevent NG from any state or DC from deploying to OR.
06.10.2025 03:03 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Hamilton: Oregon can't prove harm because the Cali guys are there to protect them! Cali can't complain because nothing has changed for them. And if you (Judge) issues a new TRO, we're just going to appeal.
06.10.2025 03:01 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Immergut: You're an officer of the court. Do you think that this is appropriate? You're a lawyer.
Hamilton: Well I'm not a policy maker and the TRO only said not to activate the Oregon NG, so Kegseth just wants to send these other guys who are already active. And OR can't complain Cali dudes.
06.10.2025 02:59 โ ๐ 11 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Hamilton: *stammer* Umm, well not many precedents for doing this...
Immergut: AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?!
Hamilton: welll.....
Immergut: You don't have a claim. Why is this appropriate?!
Hamilton: We didn't actually activate NEW people, these are the same guys from LA!
06.10.2025 02:58 โ ๐ 12 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Hamilton: Kegseth is doing this to ensure safety. Any state can be called upon to respond to any state.
Immergut: You are missing the point. Here are the conditions. There is not a legal basis to bring a federal National Guard to Oregon.
06.10.2025 02:56 โ ๐ 11 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Hamilton: 200 CA NG are being relocated to Portland.
Immergut: How is that not a direct contradiction to what I issued?
Hamilton: You only said OREGON.
Immergut: gtfo. (summarising)
06.10.2025 02:54 โ ๐ 16 ๐ 5 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Kennedy, Turco, and Riley for the good guys. Hamilton and Lynn for the DoJ.
No idea if those spellings are correct. Sorry
06.10.2025 02:52 โ ๐ 7 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Immergut is apologizing for the tech difficulties; she wanted to ensure that the public could attend the hearing.
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We're OFF TO THE RACES! Let's go.
06.10.2025 02:50 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
The new access code did let me into the meeting. Waiting for more audio, though it is an improvement over the previous half hour.
06.10.2025 02:48 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
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