Here’s what the shutdown is really about:

Nope! Vote against them in their primaries, but we have to get the GOP out.

In primaries as they come, in 2 and 4 years.

Sorry kids, there's no fast way to play this game. Everyone should have shown up last year.

Don't know the details on that, but I suspect that nonsense is purposely there to throw it out so it can be said that the GOP "gave something up." Don't buy that. 🙄

No. The majority of Dems are screaming not to take it. We're talking about 8-10 Senators, not "The Dems."

Always remember the problem here is the GOP.

I know Fetterman is one. I think Gillibrand is another. We'll know soon enough.

At least one of them won't be in another 4 years (Fetterman).

No. SOME Dems (a few Senators) may be. Not "the Dems."

That's not the case. They are feeling pressure from the rise in ACA premiums, from SNAP not being spent, from the drop in flights, and from not releasing the Epstein Files.

It's not all from the same people but the majority of people aren't "fine" with any of it.

It's not "Senate Dems" -it's a small cluster of them that are feeling more pressure from big donors and Big Money than voters.

If the House votes to release them and the White House doesn't, it's another reason to get people to vote for a Democratic House next year.

It's not "so what". You have a vote and hold it over the head of the Republicans who won't vote to release them. That hurts them with a bunch of voters in enough districts. To "save themselves" they would have to vote to release them.

You make the claim, YOU provide the link.

Those are the rules, dude, and don't cry that they aren't. I don't do YOUR work for you. 🥱

Nah, I just showed you were wrong. 😀

You are arguing for the OPPOSITE- Democrats putting in a vote that would fail but where the onus would not just be on the GOP. So that's a completely different situation. 🙄

Why Democrats are pushing a series of bills doomed to fail - MinnPost In the last days before the break for the Nov.

You didn't link to the article, and it's easy to see why. Those votes were held to hurt the GOP before an election. They were running on it to energize their voters against Republicans-

www.minnpost.com/christian-sc...

Please cite when. Pelosi as Speaker never put anything on the floor without knowing it had the votes to pass.

The rules are different in the Senate. The majority leaders have less control and will have votes purposely fail so they can vote against it- which allows them to bring back again.

Again dude, you simply don't get it.

You clearly did not read the analysis above. What Justice Jackson did is make it happen faster thru her ruling. Follow the details.

Again, you don't get it.

There are some votes you want to put people on record- like voting against the ACA now. Or the Epstein Files.

A party is not going to put up a vote that won't pass so their base knows who to get mad at. Come on. 🙄

The problem here is the Republican party and don't forget it.

You don't understand.

It's not the number of actual Democratic votes that they had. It's the number of Democrats that would vote for it. There weren't enough amongst Democrats.

Plus the Senate filibuster meant they did not "control" the Senate, they just had a majority of 50 + 1.

190. SNAP WTF? A very quick explainer on what (and why) Justice Jackson issued an "administrative stay" in the SNAP case late on Friday night, and on what's likely to happen next

Read about WHY Ketanji Brown Jackson stayed the SNAP order. Her move is probably the best solution for getting SNAP benefits approved quickly. open.substack.com/pub/stevevla...

Her vote would force a vote which would put everyone on the record for or against it.

So you only want rich people in Congress? Bad idea.

Career politician is not a bad thing.

Being a bad politician is.

Don't conflate the two.

Just stop and come back when you know what you're talking about.

They didn't have the votes for it, for crying out loud. 🙄

They didn't have the votes for it. You're welcome.

No, it won't.

There will always be 2 parties under our system.

The GOP is at fault here and everyone has to know it.