Journeyman Fan

man, if I had been caught wearing a Nazi tattoo and lying about my knowledge of it for 18 years, I might experience something called "shame," but I'm not an upper class failson pretending to be a working class hero.

I don't feel like that's even more unrealistic than all the other options, and also not really great

Very true!

Now, I don't expect the, uh, John Aziz party to win any hearts and minds or anything, but I do think it's hard to say what the political strength will look like in a decade

I think one thing is pretty clear: it will not be the United States and/or Israel alone which will have the power to do that. The "Deal of the Century" was never a "deal" and only ever a Kushnerian fantasy.

I mean, Oslo basically didn't really work out. It will remain on paper until the next thing comes along but in practice it has mostly not been implemented (or got somewhat deimplemented). So its replacement is inevitable; the question is in what circumstances and with what actors that'll happen.

I mean, the level to which that's true correlates with the political strength of Hamas among Palestinians, which is not a constant.

I'm still of the mind that it could be a stepping stone to an extremely cynical middle eastern country or consortium thereof doing *something* in exchange for Israel agreeing to *something*. Bad motives abound there, but sometimes that could lead to some improvements anyway.

Honestly, my impression is that the biggest factor in the growth of anti-Israel sentiment among Westerners today is not Palestine-related; it's antisemitic conspiracy theories (ZOG et al.). Westerners are more into antisemitism than researching Israel or caring about Palestinians.

I mean, most unconnected westerners don't know shit about any of the details of any of this at all, so like, that's not really surprising.

It was something that came up and got condemned in my circles, but my friends are not unconnected, so unrepresentative of westerners

Like I think anybody who, from an Israeli perspective, thinks that the PA and Fatah are as just dangerous to Israelis as Hamas is... just pretty objectively wrong

I mean, that might be their position, but it's not my position, and it's not the position of most centrists I know. The Israeli government also has actual kahanists in it so I don't expect them to be reasonable

They can of course oppose Hamas while wanting no Israeli occupation, a right of return, etc. There is no essential conflict there. And weirdo centrists (speaking as one, I guess?) can know that and think that they're much better than Hamas (especially given what Hamas has wrought).

Personally I think this doesn't encompass quite everybody. The fact is, these guys aren't Hamas supporters; they surely aren't just going to agree with the Israeli position just because of this, but *not Hamas* is probably generally an improvement for step negative one of getting some progress.

I agree with you, for this and other reasons

You can tolerate the phrase or you can tolerate the awkward feeling from those parties?

the other problem here is that, due to the ages and backgrounds of the candidates, this is a primary that is almost assuredly going to get nationalized and will open up some really problematic fault lines inside the dem coalition that could linger into the general, or be harmful in other primaries

Tbh, 2020 was worse than the Great Recession as a time in my life, but 2022 was pretty decent. I'm not here to complain about 2022!

repeat after me, elections are a STATE RESPONSIBILITY.

It's a good YouTube video is what it is

Yeah

The flagged words in the full list include "women" and "female," which makes it seem like this would encompass an *awful* lot of research?

IDK, I don't work there. Though stuff like Jan 6 and his past 4 years are definitely relevant, and they probably could have updated the page and kept the same URL

They just put this updated statement out which deals with events since then as well

I believe you're forgetting Palestinians who are of Jewish descent (that's almost all of them, statistically), who, some argue, represent the only legitimate continuity with the ancient Jews (insert khazarism here though it's technically optional)

At this point it's a valid question how much of these defeatist doomposters are active saboteurs.

the white house has nothing to do with elections

that is not what U.S. v. Trump stands for

trump is unique in that his depravity creates the very cynicism he feeds on. it is necessary to uphold the idea that we are capable of better even if that belief is counterfactual. which is why we need to tell the bureaucracy that their work is valued and that they are holding the line for us.

Like saying someone with a hand tremor can’t be in congress really *is* just ableism. without more evidence you don’t have any clue whether they’re capable of the job

strikes me that if the anti-Trump movement is tainted by association with Bill Kristol and the Cheneys, the left is similarly tainted by association with numerous former leftists who have gone full MAGA