Is this in the actual show wtf

The leadership of both sides are religious nationalists and would press a button that eradicated everyone on the opposing side if given the choice.
Only one side is able to actually press that button, albeit in an extremely drawn out, brutal manner. And that’s the same side which my taxes pay for.

It’s not a COMPLETE strawman, just a strawmanized version of “Gaza ‘war’ is ok because if for some reason the roles were reversed they’d kill or expel all the Jews, unlike us, who would NEVER wanna ethnically cleanse a religious group we don’t like”

I’ve fully devolved goddamn, not even attempting good faith arguments anymore lmao
I am still right tho

The hostag-
Oh wait, they got released. Uhhh… well, what about the hypothetical scenario where I have a Hamas wins this “””war””” and then kills all of the Jewish kids? Are you saying you WANT that, you sick fuck?!

Is your argument that actually all of them getting murdered is their choice, since they elected Hamas, and therefore we should respect their ‘choice’? I’m kinda confused what you’re turning to say here.

-while they sit around whining about how much America suck as the world police, and how much Russia sucks for attacking Ukraine, while they continue to purchase Russian oil.
I do like when they regulate consumer electronics, though. Unfortunately their regulation of food never reached eagleland lol

Also, the UN are pathetic and never accomplish anything. They COULD have agency but they’ve resigned themselves to having America serve as the world police-

They’ll gladly respond to “I think it’s bad because more people died”, but for some fucking reason the idea that I’m more against something my taxes are paying for is beyond them

Actually pmo how I never ever see a Zionist respond to “I’m more mad about Palestinians being killed in part because my government is directly funding it”

-to do outside of just starting a war, which would be bad, so

Btw, I don’t like or care that much about the remaining Middle East. Lots of cool culture and they obviously don’t deserve to be slaughtered but sharia law and monarchies aren’t really my thing.
And I agree, they should definitely do more to help Palestinians. But also, idk what they’re supposed-

So true, those West Bank olive farmers have so much agency!
They can, like, politely ask Israeli settlers to not burn their orchard to the ground for no reason, or even ask their police who aren’t allowed to stop violent attacks from Israelis to uhhh… ask the IDF to help?

Nah to what? Them ‘mowing the grass’? Or nah to the PLO or PA being worse lol
I agree with the latter not being true, for the record. Secular nationalism mogs religious nationalism tbh

Hamas are bad lol I’m not defending them
But even if they’re ideologically worse than Netanyahu’s government, they aren’t responsible for the vast majority of the bloodshed during this conflict.

Also, my country’s government isn’t directly paying Hamas and going to bat for them any chance they get.

It’s like how the American government assumed or hoped they could just keep being imperialistic bastards and it would never ever bite them in the ass. It’s turns out people will become radical if you keep overthrowing populist movements and instating puppet governments, wow!

October 7th probably wouldn’t have happened if Israel’s government were less positive of their ability to continually oppress Palestinians without repercussions lol
They assumed they could get away with ‘mowing the grass’ until the end of time
Hey, at least it’s better than the PLO and PA, right?

I get it I use the internet a ton, and the amount of antisemitism bothers me a lot. I do not appreciate the liberal use of ‘goy’ and ‘this x was promised to me 3000 years ago’ shit I see online, at all.
At the same time, Ms Rachel didn’t do anything wrong and she never implied what you said she did.

I also wouldn’t be ok with this if a few dozen Americans were captured, for the record. Even if this happened after a whole 900 Americans were slaughtered.

Yes, it got old. It was a pearl-clutching tactic used to downplay the vastly higher amounts of suffering being caused by the IDF.
If ONE American got captured in Iraq, tortured, and held for ransom, I would not be ok with the US government heading in guns-blazing and killing thousands of civilians.

The human shield argument is a meme, I don’t know why some Zionists think that Palestinians are uniquely bad in the way that they have military stuff in close proximity to civilians. Especially considering how cramped the Gaza Strip is. There wasn’t exactly tons of empty space begging to be used

I view it in a similar light to 9/11. It was horrible. but also inevitable, and the insane backlash was not even slightly justified.
Benjamin ‘we control the height of the flames’ Netanyahu and his shitty government directly led to October 7th, it’s not some isolated event that came out of a vacuum

I’m being pragmatic. The “think about the hostages!” Pearl-clutching got old after a while.
Hamas are bad. They killed lots of innocent people in fucked up ways. However, Israel responded by killing many, many times as many innocent people, and continue to do so.

Motive is irrelevant when it results in thousands of children being slaughtered. This applies doubly so if the “strategic advantage” to doing so is extremely tenuous at best.

Bombing refugee camps bc there’s a nonzero chance that it might have terrorists in it is really bad lol

40~ dead Jewish children vs thousands of dead Palestinian children + many thousands more who are in active danger

Can you please explain why she needs to treat these two things like they’re equally bad and pressing? From my point of view, one of these seems much less bad than the other

Unless you think that the average American is so fucking stupid that the most asinine propaganda about the evil transes and illegal immigrants is enough to make them MAGA, in which case the only way to appeal to them would be to incessantly and publicly disavow immigrants and queer people

Democrats attempted to suck off moderates the entire 2024 election cycle and they lost, idk why moderates still think their platform is a winning one

Genuine question, what do you think the overarching solution for the I/P conflict should be? Should the West Bank be annexed?

Israel is engaged in genocide, it is a genocide materially assisted by the US, and AIPAC is the biggest lobby pushing for that material assistance to continue.

AND.

We need to proactively address anyone trying to exploit these realities and justified anger to advance or engage antisemitism.

Not defending Israel btw