Scott Manley

Map showing Air traffic getting rerouted around the Debris response area on Thursday:

Had 2 good solar transits today within 2 minutes of each other

OK to clarify things, I had conflated the marine hazard area with the TFR and the two aircraft I mentioned actually passed just outside the TFR.
HAL1 did pass through TFR 7 minutes before launch, it's the only aircraft to do this between 1500Z and 1600Z

When I fly around the Bay I regularly hear the E175's around Santa Rosa and other places getting vectored to avoid me, so I figured I'd learn to fly on in MSFS.
I'm hoping that it's a bug in the model that caused a dual engine shutdown when I adjusted cabin A/C

I saw another tweet blaming DAL480, but you can see how controllers routed it to the North around the TFR.
They didn't hit the TFR, they did miss a great view of a launch.

There were two airliners that likely lead to scrub of this morning's Starlink launch - SWA1131 & HAL35 - both would have been following IFR flight plans and ATC instructions.

Regarding the danger to airliners underneath the debris path, the chances of an impact are small, but high consequence.
Consider that Columbia broke up over the US, with much denser air traffic.
But the hazard depends on a breakup process which is complicated and hard to predict.

Because the airspace was closed down airliners had to declare emergencies so they could cross to their destination.
If they'd waited for the required duration they'd have run into low fuel conditions, but by declaring the emergency early they could cross into closed airspace and land.

I can see the sonic booms

Given how photogenic the starship debris trail was, I think we should get @NASA to insist that the ISS deorbit happen in twilight, if we're spending a billion dollars to do this we need to make it look as good as possible.

Plane vs stuff falling from space, worst case scenario

Using common features I put a few of the debris videos together to extend the timeline

So, the reason I'm trying to get timing from all these observations is that I think Starship lost telemetry a few minutes before FTS was activated. That's just based on knowing how far downrange it would have been when telemetry was lost.

Watch the Starship attitude change as engines shut down:

The short time between the venting ending and the debris visibly burning up suggests that this was already on a downwards trajectory, which is why I'm interested in the timing.

So, from what I can tell the big boom happens, and there's one fragment still venting gas, but there's a cloud of fragments twinkling as they catch the light. These start to hit the atmosphere and start burning up.
Would really like to know the exact timing of this video

We now have Jet Blue and Iberia crossing the debris trail.

Well.... I guess Katy Perry is getting played at Astro Awards party next week.

That looks like an explosion:

Commercial flights are turning around to avoid potential debris.

The music in the background is by the Goo Goo Doll and features the line 'Everything's Made To Be Broken' - kinda appropriate

It's not moving as fast as IFT-2 so it'll fall a lot shorter

They lost the stage, but it's not disappeared, it's coming down somewhere right now.

Does that look like fire in places where it shouldn't be?

Doesn't look too good for the ship though, loss of telemetry with one vacuum engine showing lit, I wonder where the ship is coming down at that speed.

Given the gentle rocking of the booster you can derive a relationship between its center of mass and moment of inertia.... if you're interested.

Excitement delivered!
Note that the engine which didn't relight for the boostback worked fine for the landing.

And hot to GO for booster return.

One engine on the booster didn't relight

Flappy bit hanging in there - looks like is survived Max-Q