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The website routinely amplifies toxic maga disinformation sites. So a label is placed on any post linking to that website
The fact that sometimes they post factual content does not make it a reliable source. Mixing lies with fact ('60/40') is a way to bait credulous readers to align with the lies.

22.07.2025 12:28 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Yes it's easily done. People sometimes block when moderation mistakes are made, which is understandable.

20.07.2025 00:04 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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Bluesky's layered moderation is poorly understood.
E.g. a labeler's labels can be set individually to "Off", and then that label won't affect your view at all.
It's also different from blocking in that labels can apply to post, profile or account. Almost all my automated labels are post-level.

19.07.2025 17:45 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I labeled a bunch of "death to ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ" accounts yesterday, and set up a rule that will capture all "death to" content for review going forward.
I'll report back on the pattern in a few weeks once I have a representative sample. Based on review so far, "death to ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ" and "death to ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ" are the leaders.

18.07.2025 11:48 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 10    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 1

fixed, I try to check appeals and this account's Mentions daily but sometimes life gets in the way

18.07.2025 11:37 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

thanks for the heads up - adding handling unblock and removal of stuff from account profile is a needed fix

18.07.2025 11:35 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

> 1) why is the label showing, when I don't subscribe to the moderation list?
> 2) why does it only show for me, and not the other user(s)?

You see a given label *if and only if*
a) you subscribe to the labeler &
b) label in question is configured to anything but 'Ignore'.
Revisit your settings?

15.07.2025 11:11 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

the post below revisits the other main reason for labeling NYT as disinfo. With its resources, recognizing their useful idiocy here - which they did not, they excused themselves unconvincingly - is not an out
bsky.app/profile/capi...

15.07.2025 11:07 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 5    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

in the end state the account labeling will probably be less black-and-white. Honestly, I prefer to follow their good reporters' individual accounts anyway, given the stance of the paper's owner.

14.07.2025 20:06 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Sorry for the inconvenience - this should be fixed now.
I've replaced the old, incorrect account-level labels with a single "disinfo-link" label on one post to orbitjunction dot com, which is viewed as a bad source of information.

14.07.2025 18:09 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

done now, sorry for the inconvenience.

14.07.2025 17:53 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

For example the recent piece by a russian who did an approved ride-along with Akhmat in occupied Ukraine, to show how Ukraine is a brother nation and the war must end asap ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
Straight up rus disinfo, thanks @nytimes.com

14.07.2025 17:52 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 3    ๐Ÿ” 2    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 1

yes. i just replied to Frode about this, It's not correct as is but will take a while to rethink & update due to summer schedule & single-person constraint. For now the label stands, due to persistent sane-washing of MAGA & enough weirdly pro-fascist takes to merit it
bsky.app/profile/pef-...

14.07.2025 17:52 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 2    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

btw the FAQ only got written just now - no offense was intended by the reply

14.07.2025 17:06 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 3    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

PS "MAG*t" is a dehumanizing slur, so that label stands. Just because may people say it, does not make it OK.
Please see FAQ, which cites this and its opposite-side disinfo trope "libt*rd" as an example of impartial labeling.

14.07.2025 17:05 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Is Al Jazeera really the same as the NYT? Obvs no.
AJ is hostile Gulf State disinfo, while NYT (+ WaPo, LA T) has a billionaire owner who directs compliance in advance, with varying degrees of opposition from a massive staff. Sane-washing MAGA? That's disinfo.
But will revisit this in coming weeks.

14.07.2025 17:03 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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FAQ Public Education Forum Ozone moderation tools. Contribute to SteveTownsend/pef-moderation development by creating an account on GitHub.

yeah I've been thinking about how to distinguish account and post-level labels, and these "trusted accountโ„ข๏ธ" cases, while writing the FAQ. The current scheme is confusing, and sometimes overkill.
[Personally I prefer to follow individual reporters, tbh.]
github.com/SteveTownsen...

14.07.2025 17:03 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 1
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FAQ Public Education Forum Ozone moderation tools. Contribute to SteveTownsend/pef-moderation development by creating an account on GitHub.

this exact case is answered in the FAQ
github.com/SteveTownsen...

14.07.2025 16:55 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 3    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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FAQ Public Education Forum Ozone moderation tools. Contribute to SteveTownsend/pef-moderation development by creating an account on GitHub.

PSA: see here for future PSAs on Github FAQ page.
Will relink as needed as this grows irregularly over time
github.com/SteveTownsen...

14.07.2025 16:54 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Same reply. Will review when I have better access to the records in a couple of days.

12.07.2025 00:49 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I will review when I have better Internet access

08.07.2025 10:40 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Correct. For persistent sane washing of MAGA fascism and the trump regime, and the planted hit job on Mamdani.

08.07.2025 10:39 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Yeah, I revised the labeling for this a few days ago after hearing the same thing from someone else. I'll fix this tonight for you.

26.06.2025 22:20 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

If you report accounts instead of posts, a comment with context is essential. That's all, really.

22.06.2025 18:26 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Labelers have no block or mute ability, this is incorrect

22.06.2025 14:38 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

if you don't care about people blocking the moderator just ignore that label

22.06.2025 13:10 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Only subscribers see our labels. Additionally, how each label for a labeling service is handled is up to the subscriber (Hide/Warn/Ignore)

21.06.2025 14:14 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

For the same reason as the swastika

19.06.2025 21:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It's subjective. You are correct, nobody can affirm that.

19.06.2025 18:14 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I agree this is controversial. I'll change the rule to not auto-label, so we can continue to catch people using the slur by manual review of usage in context.

17.06.2025 11:22 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

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