Todd Schuman

Looks like they're live now: vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data...

Refresh maybe? I see it at the bottom of the page.

And by end of this week, they apparently meant today: vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data...

Scratch that, it's live now, at least for the mayor's race: vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data...

I called the city - cast-vote record should be posted by the end of the week.

Raw counts of the 2nd and 3rd votes by precinct were included in today's canvassing report, but I'm not going to tabulate them manually when the full cast-vote record will be available soon.

The Minneapolis City Canvassing Board met this morning to certify the results of the November 4th municipal election: lims.minneapolismn.gov/download/Age...

According to the city elections department, the cast-vote record will be posted on the city website by the end of this week.

You're totally right that the DFL-endorsed slate is unlikely to get all 3 of its candidates elected. That's expected (and intentional!) in a diverse electorate.

But I do understand that having to rank the 3 was hard. I struggled too and also wish all 3 could have been elected!

All this to say, plurality voting forces voters to have to make strategic choices about their votes and can result in slates of winners that don't represent the majority opinion.

Whereas RCV just asks, "Who is your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice?" and produces a result with none of those problems.

* Voters have to think strategically about who to vote for if some of their choices are long-shots, meaning their votes may not be truly reflective of their preferences

* Slates of candidates can win with minority support if their opposition is disorganized or spread out

I get what you're saying, in a plurality-style (non-RCV) election you could vote for all three and feel like they're each getting your full support.

I'd offer that plurality vote in multi-seat elections is vulnerable to the same problems as in single-seat elections, namely:

I agree that doing a direct numeric comparison between RCV and plurality elections is challenging

In a non-RCV election, you'd get three votes for three seats and then whichever three candidates had the most votes would win.

YouTube video by MPR News How Instant Runoff Voting works 2.0: Multiple winners

The only wrinkle is if your 1st choice candidate ends up getting more votes than needed to be elected. In that case a fraction of your vote gets applied to your 2nd (or maybe 3rd) choice.

This video has a good explanation: m.youtube.com/watch?v=lNxw...

Multi-seat RCV is philosophically the same as single-seat: your vote counts the most toward your 1st choice. If that candidate is eliminated, your vote cascades down through your 2nd and 3rd choices as necessary. You're not actually voting for three candidates.

Frey only got to 49.1% in the final round in 2021 because many votes were exhausted in previous rounds: vote.minneapolismn.gov/media/-www-c...

It's uncommon but it absolutely can happen.

My understanding is that information will be available when the city's canvassing board meets next Monday to certify the election. It will need to pass through the various council steps for final approval and should be available later this month.

Agreed, 62%/23% Fateh/Frey split from Hampton voters nets Fateh another 7k votes. Very close but still not enough to win.

* Also-rans
-- 929 to Frey
-- 495 to Fateh
-- 2121 exhausted

* Davis voters (20,414 total)
-- 12,607 to Fateh (62%)
-- 4,727 to Frey (23%)
-- 3,080 exhausted (15%)

* Hampton voters (15,339 total)
-- 6,623 to Frey (43%)
-- 5,661 to Fateh (37%)
-- 3,055 exhausted (20%)

It's unclear to me that this plays out differently under something like a non-partisan primary with a cut to top-2 in the general.

It's still Frey and Fateh in the top 2, with the eventual final vote distribution looking essentially like it does today.

Weird, this year the number of total votes clearly calls out that it does include overvotes, undervotes, etc. Wonder if the process changed over the last four years.

So everyone who voted 1st for Candidate A gets to distribute 20% of a vote (not a full vote) to their 2nd choice candidate.

Imagine the threshold is 25% and Candidate A gets 30% of the 1st-choice votes. That extra 5% is extraneous and can be redistributed while still keeping the candidate at 25%. 5 ÷ 25 is 0.2 (20%), so you can cleave off 20% of Candidate A's 1st-choice votes.

Relatively sure there's just one threshold (the max one, which includes all undervotes, overvotes, everything but defective ballots). If you hit that threshold, you're in.

A candidate can still win without hitting the threshold if they're the only one left after everyone else is eliminated.