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Woman don’t want men that earn less than them. Woman are becoming richer and more prosperous. So in that growing attainment gap, there is a generation lonely men who turns to porn and sex workers as to get their fix.

I lay out a reasonable respectful and thoughtful argument. And the replies are useless FUCK YOU. So, yes, toxicity is rife on both sides.

Don't compare yourself with other people; compare yourself with who you were yesterday.

Oh no worries.

I mean I would never say that to them out of politeness

Sorry but this is where you will lose everyone’s patience. Being infertile is clearly a disability. There is a huge amount of mental gymnastics to think otherwise.

Your genes are a code that has had one purpose in 4 billion years: reproduction. Genes that produce genitals that can’t reproduce is the definition of disabled. Your genes have written themselves into a cul-de-sac

What’s the difference between being a feminine man and being trans?

Well yes I would agree, because their biology clearly shows they are in between

Many intersex people are infertile.That is a disability.

Here’s what I think.

What you call gender is what we used to call personality. But there has been a semantic sleight of hand, and now many men who have more feminine qualities say that means they ARE female.

But most people agree male/female is biology, not gender/personality

But we don’t call a human with one leg a uniped. They are a biped mammals with a disability. The tiny % of people who are intersex aren’t a new sex. They are humans with a genetic condition.

But why does you not feeling comfortable in your skin mean you are a women? Especially as your biology means you could never know what it is to be a woman.

Why aren’t you simply a feminine man who justifiably feels uncomfortable in the macho excesses that typify the sex?

But we don’t redefine humanity as ‘a creature that sometimes has no legs’. We build a society to accommodate their needs but still accept biologically we are bipeds.

O isn’t a chromosome. It’s a person with just one X. It’s part of the intersex anomaly. Same as XXY. Just as some people are born with only one leg, or some are born with an extra toe. We don’t redefine categories through chance mutations that. We then conditions.

Can I ask you an honest question? Why do you think you are the other sex? Personally, I’m quite an effeminate man. My personality leans towards female traits. But woman have 4 billion years evolution in their genes and I know I can never understand their drives, their motivations, their experience.

Intersex people are a tiny minority. Some humans are born with 1 leg - but that doesn’t mean we create a whole new category of people with 1 foot.

They aren’t arbitrary definitions though. They are biological realities that have shaped a binary system of phenotypes for 4 billion years. The phenotype of XY can of course manifest some female characteristics. But the spectrum is simply a variance that lays within these categories.

But the moral principle should remain the same?

My questions are assuming no rape, no incest, no coercion. At what point does life start in your opinion?

I mean I’m pretty sure we will be at a point soon where a baby can be taken from a womb at 6 weeks and still grown in a virtual womb if needed. Mate this issue is so complicated I need a lie down

Yes, extreme circumstances, of course an abortion would be okay. I’m asking for your opinion on when does live start, so that an abortion can be done without ‘taking a life’?

No, I mean convince me life starts after conception, not at it

Well In vitro doesn’t need biological parents. But I get what you mean - the point at which the baby can survive outside the womb, rather than inside a warm supplied nutrients via the umbilical cord.

What if a baby was gonna be the one that broke the 21 week mark and would have survived, but it was aborted and not given a chance. Does that change a thing ?

Yeah I was just making sure I got you. Human babies are almost unique in mammals becuase they are born prematurely and completely reliant on their parents. As opposed to say a cow that can walk etc from birth.

From a Google search, the answer is seems to be 24 weeks, but the earliest was 21 weeks. Would you say the answer is therefore 20 weeks?

I understand and note your reasons. But I think there are solutions to these issues that don’t need to involve abortion. And as I can’t identity a clearer point of the start of human life as conception, I’m forced to conclude abortion is taking a life. Unless you can convince me otherwise

Is the foetus alive at this point?

That’s interesting. By on its own do you mean survive outside the womb? (Because obviously babies are completely dependant on their parents no matter the age)

The limit is 24 weeks in the U.K. is the alive at this point?