We rarely hear the voices of clinical practitioners in public discourse. The voices of academic researchers dominate and take up all the oxygen - and they are the voices of people with no meaningful clinical experience.
- @jonathanshedler.bsky.social
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Good comments by @jonathanshedler.bsky.social in this article in today's Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/20/triggered-toxic-narcissist-are-you-fluent-in-therapy-speak
20.08.2023 11:11 β π 15 π 1 π¬ 0 π 0
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https://jonathanshedler.com/PDFs/Shedler%20(2010)%20Efficacy%20of%20Psychodynamic%20Psychotherapy.pdf
08.08.2023 17:03 β π 13 π 1 π¬ 0 π 0
2/ I also knew from first-hand experience that 'evidence-based' therapyβtypically a code word for brief, manualized CBTβfails enormous nos. of patients. I was supervising in a university-based psychiatry clinic & saw them every day. Someone had to set the record straight"
08.08.2023 17:02 β π 17 π 1 π¬ 3 π 0
1/ "I was fed up with the false narrative we hear over and over, that psychoanalytic therapy has been discredited & so-called evidence-based therapy is scientifically proven. I knew the research and knew that the public, policy makers, & MH professionals were being sold a bill of goods.
08.08.2023 16:57 β π 34 π 7 π¬ 1 π 1
3/3 Note how such argumentsβmade routinely in psych literature & social mediaβcreate hermetically-sealed logic system
All possible corrective input is already discredited
Profoundly flawed arguments are made from position of smug superiority / high horse of "science"
No wonder they have bad sex
08.08.2023 04:07 β π 11 π 1 π¬ 0 π 0
2/3 If someone says it's bad sex, responses will be:
1οΈβ£ Evidence-based sex has strongest evidence, nothing proven better
2οΈβ£ Without evidence, itβs unethical to have sex any other way
3οΈβ£ If you have something better, show the data
4οΈβ£ Ad hominem accusations of bias & allegiance to unscientific theory
08.08.2023 04:02 β π 10 π 1 π¬ 1 π 0
1/3 If we had "evidence-based" sex, researchers who get little sex themselves would write manuals with standardized instructions, do studies showing instruction-manual sex is better than no sex at all, then declare it to be the βgold standardβ of sex. Then accuse critics of being anti-science.
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Hi Bluesky people, π @jonathanshedler.bsky.social aka Jonathan Shedler is here! He writes some of the most compelling threads (on the bird app) about psychology and psychoanalysts. Highly recommend πΆοΈ
03.08.2023 02:03 β π 13 π 3 π¬ 1 π 0
Yes, but... now people want to play word games with the term "conversion therapy," attaching it to any approach that doesn't conform to a specific ideology... including regular insight-oriented psychotherapy aimed at self-knowledge
Truth ends when words cease to be connected to consensual reality
28.07.2023 22:08 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
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Where I answer the perennial question: What is psychodynamic therapy really about?
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7/7 indeed hateful & destructive. This is called "projective identification."
The end result is that the person can deny their own sadism, cruelty, and hateβand simultaneously act it out without restraint.
And feel themselves to be 100% on the side of truth and right as they do it.
26.07.2023 17:44 β π 15 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
6/7 The person now feels fully justified in unleashing their hate on the otherβwho is seen (via the defense of projection) as someone monstrous, who must be destroyed
If the person who is the target of the projection responds to the provocation with anger/aggression, this is taken as proof they are
26.07.2023 17:43 β π 13 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
5/7 Instead, they project the badness onto some designated other. And this other person, via the defense of projection, is now seen as the repository of all that is bad and evil. That is the projection.
26.07.2023 17:40 β π 11 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
4/7 For professional colleagues looking for a more theoretical explanation, the psychological processes are splitting, projection, and projective identification.
Splitting means not recognizing one's own capacity for hate, cruelty & destructiveness. The person is blind to the bad in themselves.
26.07.2023 17:39 β π 10 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
3/7 They find a way to give free rein to their cruelty, to attack, to treat others cruelly and viciously.
And they find *allies to cheer them on* who also believe they are on the side of all that is good and right.
26.07.2023 17:38 β π 10 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
2/7 The most toxic and hateful people in the world are 100% convinced they fight on the side of all that is good and right.
26.07.2023 17:38 β π 14 π 1 π¬ 1 π 0
1/7 One of the most important things I've learned:
Severe personality problems find *camouflage.* No one thinks "I'm a sadist" or "I'm a malignant narcissist."
They find a belief system/social group that validates their most hateful, destructive impulses & construes them as virtues.
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