@tomsdigest.bsky.social lex orandi lex credendi amirite?
04.02.2025 23:17 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0@papakairos.bsky.social
@tomsdigest.bsky.social lex orandi lex credendi amirite?
04.02.2025 23:17 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0intercessions from this evening's prayer of the whole Church weigh in on the controversy π
04.02.2025 23:14 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0i'm afraid it's gonna take a great deal more pain for them to actually start to get a clue
03.02.2025 12:50 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0the revolutionary & counterrevolutionary fantasies in the Church must stop.
algorithmic sorting is driving a lot of it nowadays.
"go outside & touch grass"
"anthropocentric vs theocentric theology" pretty clearly indicates a christological problem
30.12.2024 20:03 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0i actually like that it's quieter here. feels easier to keep social media's role in my life right-sized.
X is noisy for me... can't imagine what it was like for you
lmao it's like all the meanings apply here
20.12.2024 18:47 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0inshallah homie
& i mean that in its fullest sense
this doesn't scale. media & internet comms do.
& that's the story of a lot of the last ~60 years. media coverage of VII, post VII, EWTN.
media as the religion: interpreting the world for us, providing shared symbols & grand narratives, borrowing material from Catholicism at its convenience.
it's an extremely lossy data transfer & the medium is the message.
if media (or social media) is allowed to filter & drive the message (as you demonstrated with Rahner's interview), it will become something impoverished.
the failure is pastoral: we don't teach actual persons well, beyond basics
debates about VII seem to miss this entirely.
yes, nuance is hard & lots of ppl seem uninterested in it. that doesn't vindicate the view that simple & clear is always automatically better.
it's like saying we should only have social media post-length communications bc it forces brevity & clarity
I can't stand the way guys like Rahner get strawmanned, when so much of the important ideas they had have never even actually trickled down to diocesan clergy & laity. only in bastardized form, if at all.
20.12.2024 15:47 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0lots of Concilium theology's ideas were important, but trickled down to the masses without all the nuance & so mutated into milquetoast excuses to do whatever. "Hierarchy of Truths" was one of them
19.12.2024 04:00 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0...a time to Concilium, and a time to Communio...
16.12.2024 17:57 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0we want to be curious about the kairos for a real person.
what can this person hear? what channels of grace can reach them?
even more important than being able to "start with Jesus" is the ability to start from anywhere & get to Jesus
this is what kairology should mean
I liked Fr. TomΓ‘Ε‘ HalΓk's "The Afternoon of Christianity", but one note of caution:
i don't think "kairology" should be limited to a "signs of the times" rehash. you'll just arouse the same old biases against it.
kairology is about ministering to a concrete a person, not vibes in society.
reminds me of this poem that's popular in Men's circles: "The Lessons of the Wound" by Bruce Balin
God's is the "soft hand" that can "rub the salve of compassion and understanding" to give healing to wounds.
He knows all your longing. your groans are not hidden from Him: the One who understands
"My wounds are foul and festering,
the result of my own folly
...
O Lord, you know all my longing:
my groans are not hidden from you"
He knows my longing better than i do.
beneath the tapestry of lies & deceit that clouds my view & protects & justifies laziness, malice, contempt, etc
supposedly the TAN books version edits out some of her more universalist-sounding content.
you know anything about this? trying to figure out what's a better English version
the only other possibility i can think of is synodality catching on & creating an ecclesiology with more local flexibility.
but that's at least as much of a can of worms, so seems likely to need to be slow-rolled as well
US is one thing, but if episcopal conferences where the Church is growing aren't interested in change & are willing to throw their weight around on this, it won't change any time soon
10.12.2024 04:22 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0this is still a hill to die on for a large percentage of the Church, & the Theology of the Body generation probably needs to pass away without further magisterial reiterations of that rationale for subsequent generations.
looks like decades at least until some better development is clear
after the backlash to FS, which was just Francis trying to show maximum mercy/compassion within current constraints, i'm not sure how they're getting there any time soon.
time is greater than space, but seems like it would need more time than Francis or these cardinals have
would be interested to hear more about why you think so.
i'm not particularly enthralled with many who claim to be Great Aquinas Understanders, but still paradoxically feel a pull lately to engage more deeply with his work.
βIn chronos there is no illumination. Temporality is fallen. There is a darkness that cannot comprehend and participate in the operation of grace. In chronos there is only Macbethβs βtomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow.ββ
Graham Ward