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Sociolinguist at BYU. American English (Utah, Georgia, and Latter-day Saints), mostly vowels, some methods. Organist, bread maker, fan of succulents, beginning knitter. joeystanley.com

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07.08.2025 03:53 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

My favorite word, boustrophedonically, isnโ€™t in their dictionary, but Iโ€™ll gladly be the first to use boustrophedons for the first time!

Playing Snake while plowing a field? Two boustrophedons at once!

07.08.2025 02:32 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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The Ridiculously Interesting World of American Accents Podcast Episode ยท Culture Study Podcast ยท 08/06/2025 ยท 1h 18m

I had such a good time speaking with the incredible @annehelen.bsky.social for the Culture Study pod! Check it out to learn more about regional accents of English (including a detour through Utah, h/t @joeystanley.com) podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/c...

06.08.2025 17:47 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 33    ๐Ÿ” 7    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 3    ๐Ÿ“Œ 4
A references section with nothing but works by Labov.

A references section with nothing but works by Labov.

This is Penny Eckert's references section for her tribute to Bill Labov in Language in Society this month. It's not far off from the references sections in some of the stuff I write. ๐Ÿ˜†

06.08.2025 18:03 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 7    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I finally got around to trying this walkthrough of using DCTs to normalize and model vowel formant trajectories. And it's pretty awesome. And you should try it.

05.08.2025 20:02 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 3    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I should do this. I occasionally see a blog post of mine get cited and as I prepare for my tenure portfolio, it'd be nice to have something a little more substantial than "well I've got this cool blog."

01.08.2025 14:48 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

DARLA is just FAVE and new-fave is just FastTrack. Old FAVE incorporates some priors about where the expected values should be, while FastTrack has priors about formant ceilings and whatnot. I suppose the better question really should be how the measurement processes between the two are the same!

28.07.2025 15:54 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
A selfie with a months worth of facial hair.

A selfie with a months worth of facial hair.

Yes, this is true. Yes, pun intended. Yes, itโ€™s whiter than I expected. Andโ€”for those of you aware of BYUโ€™s dress and grooming standardsโ€”yes, I got a beard waiver because Iโ€™ve auditioned to be an extra in a small movie.

22.07.2025 15:56 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I havenโ€™t shaved in about a month, and while I didnโ€™t like the beard at first, Iโ€™ll admit itโ€™s kinda growing on me.

22.07.2025 15:56 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 7    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Kind of shocking to me that you can learn Klingon on Duolingo but not Hausa

20.07.2025 12:55 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 24    ๐Ÿ” 4    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 3    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Just saw Jaws on the big screen. First time. It was awesome.

19.07.2025 04:38 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 7    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Just make sure there's enough space for everyone to spread out in their own rooms. We got lucky and found a spacious basement with a couple tables for a good price.

16.07.2025 22:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Incidentally, if you use my research in your classes or if you or your students use my tutorials or R code, I'd appreciate hearing about it. I think it's one of the stronger parts of my portfolio but it's hard to track that kind of stuff.

16.07.2025 20:38 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 8    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
A laptop, external monitor, and iPad into a three-monitor setup. At a kitchen table at a nice Airbnb.

A laptop, external monitor, and iPad into a three-monitor setup. At a kitchen table at a nice Airbnb.

I got an Airbnb with some colleagues to do a writing retreat and hopefully knock out a big chunk of our tenure portfolios. Here we go!

16.07.2025 20:35 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 10    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 1

I would genuinely enjoy reading research on this. Itโ€™s at the intersection of my professional and personal interests.

16.07.2025 18:59 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

And guess what one of the other singerโ€™s name is! Shirley!

16.07.2025 18:56 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It just seems to arbitrary. What makes Italian vowels pure? What makes English vowels impure? Why are we imitating Italian vowels when singing English?

16.07.2025 15:27 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

That may be true. But it sounds like another โ€œdonโ€™t end sentences with a preposition because Latin didnโ€™t.โ€ It just seems weird to say that when singing my (and 300 million peopleโ€™s) native variety, itโ€™s ugly simply because we use a sound that some European languages lack.

16.07.2025 15:26 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Going back to my colleagueโ€™s comment about unstressed vowels and rhoticity being Utahn though (taps too), Iโ€™m curious if other people hear that or if itโ€™s only Utahns that hear mainstream American English and say โ€œugh, what an ugly Utah accent.โ€ 6/fin

16.07.2025 12:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

There might be some acoustic, physiological, or whatever reasons for the extremely prescriptivist comments Iโ€™ve heard from singers. Perhaps a vocalist can point me to research. But think a lot of it is just perpetuating language attitudes from one choir director to another. 5/n

16.07.2025 12:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Whatโ€™s wrong with singing a rhotic R? โ€œOh, itโ€™s hard to sing?โ€ Is it though? I was in a choir and for โ€œironโ€ the director had us sing โ€œeye-ronโ€ instead of โ€œeye-yearnโ€. Why are we changing lyrics to something that literally none of us say for the sake of avoiding the NURSE vowel?? 4/n

16.07.2025 12:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 5    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Iโ€™ve only had a little formal singing instruction so I donโ€™t know what they teach in choirs. But singers have the strongest language attitudes out of anyone I know. And when pressed, they can never defend themselves very well and resort to โ€œitโ€™s just Britishโ€ or โ€œthatโ€™s how we sing it in choir.โ€ 3/n

16.07.2025 12:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 6    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

The same thing was said about basically any reduced vowel (e.g. comfort, angel, cedar) or taps. They insisted on hypercorrect forms otherwise itโ€™s โ€œUtahn.โ€ I offhandedly mentioned that thatโ€™s just American English but didnโ€™t push it. They laughed dismissively about me being a linguist. 2/n

16.07.2025 12:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 6    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Last night I was working on a piece with a few other people to sing in church,

Me, aware of the CURE lexical set: Okay so this โ€œsurely,โ€ how are we saying it?

Someone: โ€œshore-lyโ€

Me: even though none of us say it that way?

Them: yeah, because if we say it โ€œshure-lyโ€ weโ€™ll sound Utahn.

1/n ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿฆ

16.07.2025 12:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 8    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 4    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

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12.07.2025 01:11 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

For anyone who is planning on putting code snippets in books:

12.07.2025 01:05 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
The remains of Gazerbeam from the Incredibles

The remains of Gazerbeam from the Incredibles

Kronos carved into the cave wall by Gazerbeam

Kronos carved into the cave wall by Gazerbeam

Screenshot of an earlier version of the omnidroid and the super that it terminated.

Screenshot of an earlier version of the omnidroid and the super that it terminated.

And Andor and Rogue Oneโ€“style prequel to the Incredibles. Gazerbeam couldnโ€™t have been the only one involved in getting that computerโ€™s password. He was probably the (second-to-last) in a long line of supers dying to get one step closer.

11.07.2025 03:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
Old Captain America, saying, "No, I don't think I will."

Old Captain America, saying, "No, I don't think I will."

Box, when I try to open a file I closed five minutes ago:

10.07.2025 19:29 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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Dallin D. Oaks Full-time Faculty, Linguistics<br/>4075 JFSB<br/>(801) 422-6369<br/><a href="mailto:dallin_oaks@byu.edu" target="_blank"โ€ฆ

Dallin D. Oaks in my department has done a some onomastics work like this and I think Iโ€™ve heard him talk informally about this. Let me see if I can dig something up. Most of his recent work is in books though so a little hard to access. hum.byu.edu/directory/da...

10.07.2025 01:28 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I relate to your husband so much right now.

07.07.2025 23:04 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

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