John Little

Hello Nicole - this comes at it from a different big picture perspective, but it is the same problem - we have to divide the world up into systems and study them in that way, not the way we are currently doing: ecoevorxiv.org/repository/v...

Natural selection is cognitive selection ...

doi.org/10.1016/j.pb...

I agree with you Manlio, but it is harder to put it all the disciplines together than you might think:
Please see: ecoevorxiv.org/repository/v...
@pessoabrain.bsky.social

Hello Nora - I hope you are OK with me sending my own preprint [https://ecoevorxiv.org/repository/view/8158/]. It has passed through the first review at ES&T, with strong support from both reviewers, and should be published soon. I can send the preceding 2023 ES&T review if you wish.

As a cognitive scientist, I'm embarrassed at how long it took me to realise that emotion matters a lot, not just for understanding humans, but for understanding any thinking agent.

Why? Because emotion is an indicator of what that agent values, and values are essential to rationality.

Examples:

Systems and circuit neuroscience need an evolutionary perspective To identify fundamental neuroscientific principles that generalize across species, neuroscientists must frame their research through an evolutionary lens.

To identify fundamental neuroscientific principles that generalize across species, systems and circuits, neuroscientists must embrace an evolutionary perspective, argue Karl Farrow and @katjareinhard.bsky.social.

#neuroskyence

www.thetransmitter.org/systems-neur...

Thanks, Matthew, I'd love to get a pdf of the book [jcl@vt.edu]

I agree, but I think that you need many people from the field (e.g., neuroscience) to identify the systems that they are going to collectively work on, or to have a scientific approach to collectively do this - it has to be more systematic than just relying on individual researchers or small groups.

Surely the brain would itself be a system of systems that interact via interoception with a system of systems inside the organism and via exteroception with another system of systems outside the organism. Then you need to start identifying the various systems and figure out how they all interact.

Editor-in-chief of Science encourages researchers to communicate Holden Thorp visited Virginia Tech’s Blacksburg and Roanoke campuses as part of the Research Integrity and Consultation Program’s Research Integrity and Scholarly Excellence Lecture Series.

All props to Harvard for what they're doing, but I've been at LSU, Virginia Tech, and UIC the last 10 days. They're definitely doing the work - such inspiration. People need to get out of Cambridge and go to Blacksburg and Baton Rouge if you want some hope. news.vt.edu/articles/202...

Sounds great, thanks Kevin, but the timing is not good for me. Instead, please look at our evolutionary, system-of-systems, convergence paradigm:

ecoevorxiv.org/repository/v...

Systems thinking on its own is futile - a common language and computational framework is needed to make progress.

I'm not a biologist, and I only came across this idea recently, but it makes so much sense from an evolutionary perspective ...

Sensing, feeling and sentience in unicellular organisms and living cells Cells represent the basic units of life, not only as structural building blocks, but also as cognitive agents endowed with subjective cellular feeling…

There is "cognition" all the way down to cells:

link.springer.com/article/10.1...

www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...

Even cells have an elementary form of "consciousness"
doi.org/10.1016/j.bi...

Thanks, Philip, I enjoyed How Life Works and appreciate your new Commentary! My colleagues and I suggest an evolutionary, system-of-systems approach in a new preprint: [https://doi.org/10.32942/X22S7T]. It may appear impossible, but what other viable approaches are there?

Want to understand the brain? Watch Paul!
#neuroscience
#neuroskyence

This is not my field, but HFGT can overcome some of the limitations of MLNs www.arxiv.org/abs/2409.04936

The way Amro puts it, HFGT is a fusion of network science and model-based systems engineering (with the common SysML language) and has the advantages of both methodologies combined. But there are many similarities in what we are doing and it is great to be in touch with you!

My colleague, Amro Farid, is the HFGT expert - please see text on page 19 in preprint and his cited references.

Yes, thanks Manlio, but HFGT overcomes the limitations of multi-layer networks and enables greater functionality - please see the text and my colleague, Amro Farid.

Could not agree more - please see: One Earth + One Health: An agile, evolutionary, system-of-systems, convergence paradigm for societal challenges of the Anthropocene
DOI: doi.org/10.32942/X22...

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