This is one of the articles I quoted in the #HuffPost piece about Natalieโs struggle to get #Cigna to cover her surgery. #ProPublica does excellent reporting on the #insurance industry and #healthcare, and can always use your support!
23.03.2025 03:09 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
The power imbalance between an insurance company and a patient is immense. Forget the idea of a level playing field. The field is a vertical line.
We didnโt need different insurance.
We needed an insurance company that followed laws. And its own plan documents.
17.03.2025 01:09 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Insurance companies have the resources, loopholes, excuses, algorithms and work force to make receiving care nearly impossible.
Forget out of network, itโs experimental. Itโs not standard of care. Itโs not the formulary. Try a different med instead. A different doctor. A different surgery.
17.03.2025 01:02 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
She was very helpful here. Called all the offices herself to verify the lack of care.)
So, we didnโt have the โwrongโ insurance. We had a kid who needed a rare surgery, and an insurance company that didnโt want to cover it. Even when we did everything right. Even when it was dangerous to wait.
17.03.2025 00:56 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
When they couldnโt see her, Cigna sent another list. Different surgeons. Including another disconnected number.
It was like neurosurgeon whack-a-mole.
(I do want to say that I got so many comments about our case manager, saying she was a part of the problem. I still donโt believe that.
17.03.2025 00:52 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Cigna wanted us to go see all of them.
The first office number was disconnected. Another had refused to see Natlaie. Another did not do skull base surgery. ๐
The one thing I did not do over the years was to ask each office for documentation when they refused to see her. (Learn from my mistake!)
17.03.2025 00:47 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
When she had her initial consult with the surgeon, they walked us through how a single case agreement worked. Provided all the images and documentation to #Cigna months in advance. And then Cigna justโฆsat on it.
First, they sent us a list of a few โsurgeons.โ
17.03.2025 00:41 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
We tried to find โcomparable local careโ for years. Months and years of being refused appointments. We knew there wasnโt a qualified surgeon for Natalie in WA. #Cigna knew there wasnโt a qualified surgeon for Natalie in WA. Her NYC surgeon knew there wasnโt care in WA.
17.03.2025 00:38 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
And even if you have insurance with limited out of network benefits, if there is no โcomparable local careโ - nobody in the network who can do the surgery - then the #insurance company negotiates a single case agreement, allowing a patient access to care.
17.03.2025 00:33 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Then we tried #UWMedicine. Nope. #Swedish, nope. Eventually, we learned what most people with her combination of conditions learns - there are only a few doctors who do this surgery.
17.03.2025 00:30 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
First reason: We live in #Seattle, near two world-renowned medical systems. Including #SCH (Seattle Childrenโs). Natalieโs initial #hEDS diagnosis was here. And thatโs when we learned they had no follow up care. None. โHereโs your dx! Good luck!โ Believe me, we tried.
17.03.2025 00:23 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Back to discuss this now that Natalie is recovering well from #CCI #surgery.
First topic: What our #insurance should have covered.
Or, answering the โwhy didnโt you just have better #healthinsurance?โ
(Hot tip: Donโt ask a #parent fighting for their kid that question.)
#hEDS #MD
17.03.2025 00:19 โ ๐ 5 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
Think Iโll try to go through one topic a day for the next week or so.
Until then, Iโm so very happy to say that Natalie is already much better.
The other day she was just leaning against a counter, chatting and texting.
Upright. And ok. ๐ฉท
10.03.2025 15:14 โ ๐ 4 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
5) what to say if you are a doc who doesnโt understand EDS.
You are making the job harder for the providers who understand this condition. Those poor MDs have open their visits with โfirst, this is a real condition. Itโs not anxiety,โ
(No one asked for this one, but I have some things to say.)
10.03.2025 15:11 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
4) what are the signs and symptoms of cranio-cervical instability? How do you get diagnosed and treated. Happy to walk through it, with all the standard precautions - not medical advice, just our experience, etc.
10.03.2025 15:01 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
3) How did you get insurance to cover her care.
Yeahโฆ.i wrote a viral article. ๐
Thereโs very little coverage for the complicated care for EDS. Partly b/c insurance doesnโt reimburse well. Partly b/c itโs still a poorly understood condition.
10.03.2025 15:00 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
2) How did you find care for EDS?
Happy to walk people through my experience and Natalieโs (with her consent and knowledge). Iโm sorry to say that itโs a long, windy and sometimes bumpy road. Hope I can make things easier for someone else.
10.03.2025 14:55 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Most of the comments fell into a couple of camps.
1) โyou should have had better insurance.โ
Because blaming the individual for a systemic problem is the American way.
Nope. We actually did everything โrightโ and then insurance fucked around. More on this in the coming days.
10.03.2025 14:52 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
It got a little tricky in the middle, with a post-op infection. She was well taken care of, her picc line is out now and sheโs starting PT. Weโre so excited to see where her future takes her.
Now that weโre home and sheโs a bit more independent, Iโd love to talk about a few things here.
10.03.2025 14:44 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Natalie, a slender 19 yo with redish hair stands outside in the sun in pajama bottoms and a black tshirt. She is smiling and there is a tree and mountain behind her.
Natalie, a 19yo with reddish hair sits on a couch with a small dog next to her. Natalie is wearing a hard cervical collar. She has a blanket with hearts over her and a large heart pillow next to her.
Natalie (a 19yo with reddish hair, wearing a hard collar) stands next to her mom Beth (a 50yo
With short brown hair and glasses). Beth is holding a small cavapoo and wearing a pink sweater. Natalie is wearing a green tank top and has a picc line.
Some good news!
Natalie had her surgery! Sheโs home now and doing so well. Sheโs in her hard collar a couple more months, and has about a year of rehab to go, but omg, she can think again. And eat. And stand up. Itโs a whole new world for her already.
Thank you so much for all the support. ๐ฉท
10.03.2025 14:36 โ ๐ 8 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
When even the #Hallmark channel is pointing out how damaging the #healthinsurance industry is, maybe itโs time to reconsider the business model.
#UHC #CEO #healthcare
#HappyHowlidays
#FindingMrChristmas
21.12.2024 17:56 โ ๐ 8 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
And to the media , health insurance execs and law enforcement:
What the actual fuck???
Years of school shootings, of hate crimes, of domestic violence . So many now dead people report *actual credible threats* and the answer is ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐ ๐.
And THIS is the one you take seriously.
Come the fuck on.
14.12.2024 17:50 โ ๐ 6 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
So to #BrianaBoston, if you ever see this: Iโm so sorry for everything you are going through.
Iโm so sorry that the #healthinsurance industry needed a scapegoat.
And Iโm so sorry that even before that, you had to fight for #healthcare.
Only in America, right? (No, but seriously.)
14.12.2024 17:45 โ ๐ 4 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Things that did happen during our wait:
-I asked our case manager to stop calling us with updates (unless it was final approval) b/c the non-updates were devastating.
- I asked my husband to take over the phone calls for a week b/c I didnโt trust myself not to lose my shit on the phone.
14.12.2024 17:31 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
And luckily for me, all of our discussions happened before the UHC CEO was shot. B/c while I donโt *think* I would have referenced itโฆmaybe I would? In an attempt to make someone, anyone, understand the comparable level of violence that I felt the insurance company was putting Natalie through?
14.12.2024 17:27 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
I donโt even remember everything I said. Thatโs why my article says that *I think* I told the CEO to go fuck himself.
I donโt remember the exact wording. I do remember asking if they cared if Natalie died? And if they were ready to pay for her life long care. (B/c money talks, right?)
14.12.2024 17:25 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Iโve never been more frustrated than in my dealings with Cigna over the last three months. I felt like they were constantly talking in circles, with just enough plausible deniability to claim they โwere working on it!โ
And one day on the phone, I finally saw red.
14.12.2024 17:21 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
But when a mom like Briana finally hits her breaking point, and *references national news* somehow thatโs the actual threat? Thatโs the harm?
What about the harm from denied care?
Violence isnโt the answer and neither are threats, but nobody really thinks she was a threat.
14.12.2024 17:19 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Watching my child suffer and struggle to eat and drink, worrying that these changes might be permanent b/c of the delay in care has been the worst three months of my life.
For Natalie, who has to live through it, itโs abusive. (And we would call it abuse if her parents refused to let her eat.)
14.12.2024 17:15 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
In the months that we fought and begged for approval, Natlaieโs condition continued to worsen. She is now on more meds, is at the infusion center twice a week, and has lost an unsafe amount of weight.
#Cigna also does not cover her anti-nausea meds, but thatโs a story for another day.
14.12.2024 17:08 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
The global nonprofit organization dedicated to change and progress in the world of Ehlers-Danlos syndromes (EDS) and hypermobility spectrum disorders (HSD) ehlers-danlos.com
The Writers Guild of America West (WGAW) is a labor union representing writers of motion pictures, television, radio, and internet programming.
linktr.ee/wgawest
Assemblymember. Democratic Nominee for Mayor of NYC. Running to freeze the rent, make buses fast + free, and deliver universal childcare. Democratic Socialist. zohranfornyc.com
Editor at Business Insider
Pitch me your personal essay ideas
folito@businessinsider.com
๐Philly
Editor-in-chief, @phillymag.com // THE EAGLES OF HEART MOUNTAIN (now out in paperback!) // came in third on Jeopardy once but actually played pretty well
Freelance writing about the wild, old and dead. (Plus comics.) Bylines in The New York Times, SciAm, Undark, Texas Monthly, and lots of other places. Repped by @desir.ee at Looking Glass Literary.
features editor at New York magazine, here to observe. natalie dot shutler at voxmedia dot com
Features editor at Slate with a special interest in science and health. Writer and runner.
๐ฆThe Official BlueSky of DollyParton๐ฆ
Dolly: An Original Musical Tickets on Sale Now!โจ https://dollyparton.com/
The best source for Seattle men and women's soccer news, opinion and rumors on the whole of the Internet. SounderAtHeart is independent news outlet and community that is primarily reader-supported. Join us: https://www.sounderatheart.com/#/portal/signup
Professional Landscape Artist
Represented by fine art galleries across Canada
https://monica-morrill.jimdosite.com/ https://monicamorrillart.etsy.com
Author (The Ember of Elyssia Quartet, Fortune's Calling Trilogy, THE BRIDAL PARTY, THE PRINCE WITH SIX FACES). Dice roller. Disabled in the library. All opinions mine. All around nerd.
https://linktr.ee/annaholmeswritesbooks
(She/they) โฟ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
Always fighting for the people.
Wife, Momala, Auntie. She/her.
107 Days, my behind-the-scenes account of the shortest campaign in history, is available for pre-order now.
A volunteer effort to support Acadia and the National Park System. We are not park employees, only supporters who care a whole awful lot.
Prime Minister of Canada and Leader of the Liberal Party | Premier ministre du Canada et chef du Parti libรฉral
markcarney.ca
Join us in Brooklyn for the launch of LIVE on Skylight!
RSVP here:
https://smokesignal.events/did:plc:rbvrr34edl5ddpuwcubjiost/3lvopsv64m22p
๐ฌDM me on Germ
https://ger.mx/A2Lp26tH5BVPgPl-4I9YCkphHi6QYEw4lorHMTG9DRse#did:plc:76iqtegcbbr4pbcxomka5pat
๐Join us in Brooklyn, NY on Aug 24th for the launch of LIVE on Skylight!
RSVP here: https://smokesignal.events/did:plc:rbvrr34edl5ddpuwcubjiost/3lvopsv64m22p
๐Join Skylight Social!๐
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/skylight-social/id6740706006
We are home to PBS News Hour (ranked the most credible and objective TV news show), PBS News Weekend and @washingtonweekpbs.bsky.social.
Donate now to support our work: https://bit.ly/3IXO4xW
More: linktr.ee/pbsnews
A team of scientists & activists, in & around Yellowstone National Park. 501c3. Posting photos, ideas & solutions, because together, we can change the world.
Please report malicious trolls & imposters.
We are AltYelloNatParkโข๏ธ