Daniel Vortisto

It should be prohibited to teach only Weber and no Marx in a course of sociology. For a liberal think tank, it’s ok. Horrible but expected. But we should count this kind of “result sharing” as disinformation.

There is no diagnosis in your anamnesis.

This description of voters does not inform what has been historically a typical standard of living for the workers that vote for Reform nor whether their current real income is below that level.

This does not answer any why-question. Nor why ppl voted for Mamdani in UK and Lula in Brazil.

Not true! In Brazil Lula won and Bolsonaro lost. It may appear to be like this on your data, now, given the current population and the current parties, but this is not what happens everywhere at all times. There is a material cause that shines through your data, and that you want not to recognise.

The channels of communication increased for all parties!

The production and circulation of fascist propaganda also increased. Why? Why is there now a liberal party doing fascist propaganda and capitalists spending money on this shit?

Do you notice the fact that a low income now is not sufficient to live on the same standard as before?

Are you counting on the fact that this is what fascists write on their propaganda?

Are you counting on the fact that there is no large socialist party that puts this in the propaganda?

Aaaaahhhhh

How many low-ed. low-inc. workers are there in comparison to high-ed. low-inc. and low-ed. high-inc. workers?

Then, because you are not dumb, I repeat the question: why are the low-education workers falling for propaganda recognising their low-income now but not before?

Aaaahhhh

Low-income workers are falling for liberal propaganda of oppressive plans allegedly meant to solve real observable problems that the workers are facing now, and didn‘t face before.

Fascists produce misinformation to target opponents, but workers vote for them bc “they know how they feel”.

No, don’t act stupid!

Many ppl don’t understand the causes of the directly observed phenomena and they vote for politicians that recognise the directly observed phenomena that trouble them. Whether the politicians attribute wrong causes to known problems - like you - is another issue.

High-, mid- and low-education workers are equally susceptible to political propaganda that points out what we experience. The number of people who studied sociology is statistically irrelevant and, as we can see in this exchange, it does not guarantee that ppl understand data.

What I am claiming is that *low-income* workers, when low-income is less than necessary for one’s means of living, are more susceptible to propaganda that points out the precarious conditions that they experience. That’s when Mamdani wins in NYC and that’s when fascists win in the UK.

No, I don’t. I know other countries like Brazil where the ppl with high education consume and spread disinformation. Low education workers are not for disinformation. Bad interpretation of data is not disinformation, like you‘re not doing being misinformed by anyone when you misunderstand your data.

No, I know that the propaganda contains correct anamnesis, false diagnosis (wrong causes) and fake solutions. The discussion here is not about whether low education workers often fall for it, but why they fall for it now and didn’t fall for it in the past. Please ask why!!!

Wait. Fascism does a correct anamnesis of the problems people are facing. People see others using drugs, they see crime being committed on the streets, they fear rape because they know the victims. The issue with fascism is that the policies are not solutions to the problems bc the causes are wrong.

Zohran Mamdani acaba de ter uma vitória histórica nas eleições para prefeito de Nova Iorque.

É claro, isso pouco influencia nas nossas vidas.

Mas é essencial entender como um socialista democrata se tornou prefeito do centro financeiro dos Estados Unidos na era de Donald Trump. +👇🏽

They are not doing a bad diagnosis of the problems that many ppl are facing, especially low-income workers. They are doing a better diagnosis than you and that’s why the propaganda works. The issue is that they do not propose a solution to the problems.

Reform UK says on their page “You are worse off, both financially and culturally. Wages are stagnant, we have a housing crisis, our young people struggle to get on the property ladder, we have rising crime, energy bills are some of the highest in Europe…”. Which ppl read this and shout »yeah!«?

Yaso, as palavras são polissêmicas. Todo mundo na computação conhece “hash token“, mas não é disso que as pessoas falam quando discutem tokenização (segmentacao) em processamento de texto nem quando discutem sobre usar negros, gays e mulheres como token (símbolo de representatividade) na política.

Não me surpreende.

Sou gay e frequentei o Colégio Santo Agostinho 3 de Belo Horizonte, hoje Magnum Agostiniano. Ensinavam e ensinam para crianças que a “liberdade“ do livre arbítrio não é “libertinagem”, mas sim permissão para obedecer a Deus e não agir como os outros querem. No pré-primário.

A four frame comic about Captain Torture. The first frame shows the sign "BREAKING NEWS" and the drawing of a man, with the words "CAPTAIN TORTURES PASSES AWAY" near him. The second frame shows a journalist holding a mic, as she says "A controversial and divisive figure, Captain torture will be remembered for his key role in history." The News title is "Mourning day for Captain-". The third frame shows three posts on social media. The first one is by a man called Paul James @Paulitician. He writes: "I didn't always agree with Captain Torture but he sure was a man who believed in something." The second post by James Paul @Avegetable reads: "I pay my respects to Captain Torture and his family. His heart was in the right place- with our country." The third post is by SonicVomit @SonicBleh , and reads "HE TORTURED PEOPLE". The fourth frame shows an interview on TV. An angry man on the right is saying: "Let me tell you something, Jen. I think it's SICK to celebrate Captain Torture's death. These people should be LOCKED UP, and also tortured-". The news below says: "Every president on earth pays homage-".

Captain Torture

Vexame. Eu imagino o que passa na mente de uma pessoa que estudou direito por anos para passar em um concurso de juiz quando presencia isso. Eu fico puto com a polícia sem ter gastado um minuto da minha vida para estar naquele lugar.

Oi @ianneves.bsky.social, ainda não assisti nenhum episódio de »por que odiamos?« sobre o Dick Cheney no seu canal. Talvez seja hora de você compartilhar um vídeo antigo ou produzir um novo porque o velho morreu enquanto o novo ainda não pôde nascer. Morreu atrapalhando a sua programação da semana!

And also consider that the living infrastructure (how close shops are, daycare, health insurance, retirement insurance, etc.) determines how much means of living a worker has to buy with his/her low income.

So if you‘re studying voters’ behaviour to inform policy on how to turn our electoral plutocracies into democracies, please consider the fact that the working class needs to work for the means of living and that low income does not correspond to the same amount of means of living at different times.

I’m talking of “cause” in the material sense. If people with low education (indirectly with low income) changed their voting behaviour, the material cause of the behaviour is NOT low education. The solution to the problem can’t be education for all either due to the structure of work force demand.

Let me put in another way.

Counter-evidence: If low education level was the cause of ppl voting for fascists, there should be more ppl with low education level now than there were in the 1990’s. Not what happened.

Wrong liberal policy: To curb fascism, we need to increase the education level.

Julius, you probably know that “low-income areas” is a worse marker than *low-income people* and that education level is an indirect marker for income level in a stratified working class. I find it horrible that liberal think tanks pretend the problem is where it is not.

Guys, join a CP, any CP, and let’s overcome this inefficient and unethical mode of production!

We cannot accept food to be a commodity, something produced to be sold and that cannot have any other function if not to produce surplus value.

FYI: CPUSA is growing rapidly!

Guys, if the power does not emanate from the residents but from the capitalist class (which I think is a plausible claim), we should stop calling the political regime of liberal states a democracy. Let’s call it a plutocracy and let’s instate a democratic regime.

Isso é dito provavelmente por espectadores não-organizados de notícias, opiniões e propostas políticas.

Que tal você pedir para os espectadores que fazem perguntas no Desce a Letra para informarem se estão organizados ou não e em qual partido, sindicato ou coletivo?