With this thread all activity on this account will be permanently closed for good.

Please do not bother kiravera8, mana_chan__ or WolfThunder29 about any of this. We do not wish them further harm.

If you get some positive insight from our posts that will help you grow personally, we will accept that. But we no longer stand by any of the accusations and hurtful things we've said about WolfThunder.

Before we truly close our account for good, we have noticed that our posts sometimes still get liked by others.

We would like to ask that you please not spread what we have said about WolfThunder to anyone else. We don't wish him any further harm.

We hope you will only take the good lessons we tried to impart from our posts, and won't follow our example to bully a socially awkward but well-meaning fan.

This thread is our closing statement for everything. Thank you for understanding.

Please do not bother kiravera8, mana_chan__ or WolfThunder29 about any of this. They've already been through a lot, and deserve the space they need to heal.

Any other issues they need to solve is between them. We nor anyone else should get involved.

We cannot apologize enough for everything we have done. To WolfThunder. To Kira and Mana. To their fan communities and friends. To everyone.

We thought we knew a problem and wanted to solve it, but it turned out our emotions just got the better of us.

If you have the time and truly care and Kira and Mana's well-being, please take the time to read WolfThunder's document. In it he brings up a serious issue they've been facing that could potentially end up far more catastrophic if left unchecked.

But don't listen to any of the toxic roasting we have spat out especially towards WolfThunder, and MOST CERTAINLY do not circulate those negative words and accusations to others. We no longer stand by them.

If you can still take anything positive out of what we have posted in the past, please only take the advice that you can use for self-improvement in how you interact with others to heart.

Because of this, we have come to the decision to truly end all operations as the WolfThunder Sus Squad for good after we are done typing these final messages.

We only made things harder for WolfThunder, and in turn made things harder for Kira and Mana as well.

WolfThunder could've treated them differently, but he didn't.

Kira and Mana could've told him what he did bothered them, but they didn't.

There's no need to curse any of them for it though. What's done is done.

Like with WolfThunder, our critiques to her and Kira still stand.

However, we no longer stand by the accusations we made of them back when we were questioning our own agenda against him.

We mentioned something like this in our last thread, where we criticized Mana for not being more upfront and honest about what happened with her Plushie Campaign. And that eventually extended to criticizing her and Kira for not confronting WolfThunder straight away.

In fact, looking on it now Mana and her sister Kira have overall had rather poor communication when it comes to setting their boundaries back then. This could be why WolfThunder had such a hard time with figuring them out while engaging with their work.

We assumed that she always hated WolfThunder due to her silence to most of his replies and linking, but technically there's no real indicative evidence to that idea.

It's just as possible that she does like him, or at the very least doesn't dislike him as much as we believed.

True, maybe it was moreso that Mana didn't want any drama, but there is a chance that she also didn't want WolfThunder to get hurt.

Didn't want her fans to harass him the same way we did, or accuse his intentions as insincere.

Looking back on what happened now, it's more likely that Mana didn't go into detail about the Plushie Campaign while deeming it a failure because she didn't want to cultivate a drama that would end up with her fanbases attacking WolfThunder.

At the time we believed she, and her sister Kira, were insincere and uncaring towards their fanbases and used what happened to WolfThunder as proof. In reality we were so deep in questioning our methods towards him that we shifted our blame tactics onto them.

In the last post we made we accused Mana of not actually caring about her fans, due to her posting about her Plushie Campaign being deemed a failure without explanation why, after initially calling it a success.

And we did so without question, it wouldn't be until Mana's Plushie Campaign failed that we truly decided to challenge our own prejudices towards him.

When we were doing so however, we ended up lashing out at Mana as well.

Looking back it's likely we made WolfThunder's back-and-forth over whether he wanted to be involved with Kira and Mana or not worse, and that's why he kept coming back to them for comfort. We ended up enabling his dependency on them.

But we took it too far.

We tried to get other people involved, tried to rally them our cause, even Kira and Mana eventually, because we got blinded by the anger we kept feeding to ourselves.

But in truth, we wanted nothing more than justification for our rage.

To us it didn't really matter if Kira or Mana knew of this or even cared, we just wanted to yell at WolfThunder for being a fanboy.

We assumed that if what we were sharing could be used as insight for how others should not show appreciation for who they admire, then maybe our actions could in someway help Kira and Mana or make up for what they had been through, back when we thought it was WolfThunder's fault.

And as we found out from this doc WolfThunder made, he brought up an issue happening with them that we had no idea about.

For all of our own claims of wanting to "protect" Kira and Mana from him, we were oblivious to a real problem they were facing.

It wasn't right of us to treat him like we did. We believed he was a monster who should never be forgiven or forgotten for what he did to Kira and Mana.

And because of that, we piled on to his issues with them foolishly believing we were "protecting" them.

While he was going through a tumultuous time over his crisis of faith, we added onto his stress by publicly badmouthing everything he did and speaking of him with venom.

We were so angry at him, and threw out that anger without thinking about it first.

With this doc, he chose to own his mistakes and come forward to admit his fault.

With this in mind, this is us taking him at his word and congratulating him for his bravery.

As well as offering our apology.

While it was still not right of him to do so, it's clear that he only did it because he was worried about the safety of the two minors mentioned in the doc, as well as suffering from paranoia due to questioning his faith in Kira and Mana at the time.

We will say that it is still awful of WolfThunder to have accused Kira and Mana of using minors to solve their problems for them, with only very circumstantial evidence that can easily be disproven.

We're not patronizing him for it however.