MV Scott🇨🇦🇲🇽📎🇵🇸

Noem is a monster but bidets are wonderful!

I love how you blue no matter who folks always revert to the Jill Stein nonsense. I would never vote for her. I voted for Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Biden and Harris. I mentioned Fetterman and Cuellar because they are democrats which according to you is enough to vote for a POTUS. Policy means nothing.

Lil Marco.

That’s not what I’m suggesting. I want a good candidate with good policy not another shitty one that won’t win.

Maybe we’ll end up with Fetterman, he’s a democrat? How about Henry Cuellar? He loves ice and thinks abortion should remain illegal but he’s a democrat so all good right?

No, we have to pick a candidate. If you’re not willing to engage in that process how about you stick your head in the sand, don’t engage in the primary process, just vote for the blue candidate because that’s all that seems to matter to you. Policy is irrelevant right?

But it has nothing to do with the policy or strategy of the Democratic candidate?

Empty suit.

I suggest you think about what kind of policy you would like to see implemented and go support a candidate pushing those policies because your current blue no matter who strategy is exactly what got us into this situation we’re in. Ask yourself why the election autopsy the democrats did was buried?

Why do you think my preferred candidate is less likely to win than yours? The white neoliberal male candidate has lost over and over again since 1980, why is that the safest pick in 28’

And that’s the problem, you don’t care about policy. There’s no point in continuing this discussion. Anyone who thinks policy doesn’t matter isn’t serious. Bye.

I don’t get how you’re so sure a white man has a better chance if they have shitty policy. I want a candidate with policies that addresses the material issues of regular people. I don’t care about gender or ethnicity. Doesn’t matter.

So it’s ok for you to despise people but it’s not ok for me? That’s novel. I despise Trump and Elon as well.

I have met her.

States rights. Federal government has no jurisdiction over property taxes. Just another lie.

What exact policy did Harris or Clinton run on that you were excited about?

I answered your question. I can’t help that you don’t understand. We don’t agree with your assertion that a woman can’t win. We’ve had two women who lost, you think it’s because they’re women, I think it’s deeper than that. People didn’t like what they were selling.

I agree. I despise her and it has nothing to do with her gender.

The hate prior to her getting into the senate was all right wing nonsense pushed hard by Rush Limbaugh. The legitimate criticism stems from her actions in the Senate onward and is well deserved imo. She’s trash.

She’s a neoliberal thru and thru. Embrace of TPP, Israel, Kissinger(evil war criminal), against Medicare for all. To name a few. Things I don’t think warranted hate; baking cookies comment, Vince Foster, not leaving her philandering husband, trying to get universal healthcare back in the day.

Yeah I don’t really know how many but I do recall that.

Yep, lots still think she murdered Vince Foster. The hate was irrational. I hate her for things she actually did.

I’m old so I wasn’t surprised but that’s true, I think some of them were the Bernie to Trump voters.

Agreed and at that time she hadn’t even really done anything bad

Yep, half the country despised her before she even declared. The Democratic Party just pretended that wasn’t the case.

Clinton’s embrace of the TPP also really cost her votes.

Very true. Biden told her “no daylight” before the first debate.

Clinton was also dealing with 2 decades of hate from the right. It was nonsense but it was definitely a big factor. The reason I asked how old she was is because unless you lived through it you probably don’t understand.

All she offered was a continuation of Biden and it was clear his approval was in the toilet. She even said as much. I blame Biden more than her, things may have been different if we had a normal open primary but Biden made that impossible.

How old are you?