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Dear businesses,

If you get a threatening letter from anti-trans lobby group β€˜Sex Matters’ trying to scare you into banning trans people under threat of legal action - ignore them!

Time and again they get embarrassed in court while cos-playing at being β€˜experts’!

You don’t want to foot the bill!😬

09.12.2025 18:30 β€” πŸ‘ 68    πŸ” 23    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 0
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Harassment, 'untruthful' evidence, and 'unusual' legal questions. Our reporter Xander Elliards looks at nine points from the Sandie Peggie ruling that the rest of the media has left out

09.12.2025 17:46 β€” πŸ‘ 100    πŸ” 46    πŸ’¬ 3    πŸ“Œ 6
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Scottish nurse wins part of her tribunal in trans doctor changing room case Sandie Peggie wins harassment claim but tribunal dismisses allegations of discrimination and victimisation

Ignore the media framing, I think this is a glimmer of good news.

β€œThe tribunal was clear that the law does not now require banning trans people from single-sex spaces” - @goodlawproject.bsky.social

www.theguardian.com/society/2025...

09.12.2025 15:14 β€” πŸ‘ 248    πŸ” 54    πŸ’¬ 14    πŸ“Œ 1

@xanderelliards.bsky.social is a great reporter, and the @scotnational.bsky.social one of the few honest papers around.

09.12.2025 16:20 β€” πŸ‘ 14    πŸ” 4    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
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We must #ChangeTheNarrative!

Dr Beth Upton was fully acquitted of all wrongdoing in yesterday’s Employment Tribunal decision. Yet she has been vilified by a toxic & poisonous media for months.
It must stop!

Congratulations, and solidarity, to you, Beth!

09.12.2025 14:30 β€” πŸ‘ 394    πŸ” 125    πŸ’¬ 10    πŸ“Œ 4

A very necessary and important column from my @heraldscotland.bsky.social colleague Marissa MacWhirter

09.12.2025 14:50 β€” πŸ‘ 46    πŸ” 11    πŸ’¬ 3    πŸ“Œ 1
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When the Law Said No: How Gender Critical Arguments Failed in Court A plain English guide to what the Peggie judgment actually decided

If you’re tired of explaining yourself and the misreporting of the Peggie tribunal to your lazy and ignorant friends save your energy and send them this.

open.substack.com/pub/ajustsoc...

09.12.2025 12:12 β€” πŸ‘ 127    πŸ” 55    πŸ’¬ 4    πŸ“Œ 8

I’m so tired of cis friends sending me shit like this AFTER I’ve explained the detail of the Peggie case.

β€œI found the BBC reporting interesting. Am I gullible believing it? My kids who get their (?fake) news from TikTok think I believe mainstream media cos I’m old and β€˜part of the establishment!’

09.12.2025 12:12 β€” πŸ‘ 86    πŸ” 10    πŸ’¬ 6    πŸ“Œ 2

If it is lawful to allow a trans woman in the women's toilets, that "conduct" cannot be harassment.

It fails the objective test.

09.12.2025 12:26 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 2    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

You’d never know this was what was decided as part of that tribunal ruling…

09.12.2025 08:27 β€” πŸ‘ 357    πŸ” 121    πŸ’¬ 8    πŸ“Œ 4
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Found this in a recent article., addressing the post-FWS coverage of 'biological sex' in the media.

Oh no wait, I didn't - it was written by transfeminist Irene Clyde (under her male signature).

95 years ago.

08.12.2025 19:26 β€” πŸ‘ 162    πŸ” 49    πŸ’¬ 4    πŸ“Œ 2
796. Thirdly, the claimant’s contention was in our view not consistent with the court’s comment that  β€œwe have concluded that a biological sex interpretation would not have the effect of disadvantaging or removing important protection under the EA 2010 from trans people (whether with or without a GRC).”  797. After that comment the court explained that a person with gender reassignment as a protected characteristic could pursue a claim of direct or indirect discrimination, or of harassment, if the circumstances so warranted. There was no qualification to it to the effect that that was not applicable in, for example, the context of a single sex space under Part 5 of the Act. If their decision had been that all trans persons must be excluded from the changing rooms or toilets for the sex they identify with because it was not the sex assigned at birth, and may also be excluded from the changing rooms or toilets of their biological sex, that in our view certainly does impact on their rights under section 7.  798. Were the claimant’s contention to be correct that would have the effect of materially reducing the extent to which that protected characteristic could be relied on by trans persons, to their disadvantage. What was desired by the trans person when living their life may not be permitted in a large number of practical instances, and would not have been consistent with the view expressed by Lady Hale in Work and Pensions, and the line of authority in relation to human rights. Such a construction in our view would also not be consistent with the interpretation of the Equal Treatment Directive from the CJEU and its predecessor as referred to above, which remains as assimilated law, and would not be consistent with a purposive interpretation still required. The development of the law in relation to what is now the protected characteristic of gender reassignment is set out above. At the very least we would have expected these considerations to have been addressed speci…

796. Thirdly, the claimant’s contention was in our view not consistent with the court’s comment that β€œwe have concluded that a biological sex interpretation would not have the effect of disadvantaging or removing important protection under the EA 2010 from trans people (whether with or without a GRC).” 797. After that comment the court explained that a person with gender reassignment as a protected characteristic could pursue a claim of direct or indirect discrimination, or of harassment, if the circumstances so warranted. There was no qualification to it to the effect that that was not applicable in, for example, the context of a single sex space under Part 5 of the Act. If their decision had been that all trans persons must be excluded from the changing rooms or toilets for the sex they identify with because it was not the sex assigned at birth, and may also be excluded from the changing rooms or toilets of their biological sex, that in our view certainly does impact on their rights under section 7. 798. Were the claimant’s contention to be correct that would have the effect of materially reducing the extent to which that protected characteristic could be relied on by trans persons, to their disadvantage. What was desired by the trans person when living their life may not be permitted in a large number of practical instances, and would not have been consistent with the view expressed by Lady Hale in Work and Pensions, and the line of authority in relation to human rights. Such a construction in our view would also not be consistent with the interpretation of the Equal Treatment Directive from the CJEU and its predecessor as referred to above, which remains as assimilated law, and would not be consistent with a purposive interpretation still required. The development of the law in relation to what is now the protected characteristic of gender reassignment is set out above. At the very least we would have expected these considerations to have been addressed speci…

This is a real disaster for those - pretty much the entirety of the British media - advancing a maximalist reading of the For (Some) Women Scotland decision.

08.12.2025 14:24 β€” πŸ‘ 565    πŸ” 123    πŸ’¬ 8    πŸ“Œ 22

If we cannot ban Twitter, at least stop using it. No journalist, gov or public service should be found using this anti-democratic, racist misinformation machine.

Not anyone, really. It is a grave mistake to help keep this toxic abomination running.

09.12.2025 11:10 β€” πŸ‘ 12    πŸ” 2    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
631. The third aspect was her evidence given when recalled in relation to a message she had passed on to her group of friends which related to floods in Pakistan in the most highly offensive terms. She initially described the messages as β€œdark humour”. Her evidence later was that the message had been sent to provoke a reaction, in broad summary. We did not consider that latter evidence to be credible given the content of the message sent and her initial evidence about it. In our view it was an untruthful attempt to downplay what she had done, which she recognised as having included very offensive material. We consider that it was clear beyond serious argument that the author or authors of the original message considered the remarks humorous, and that the claimant had also considered them humorous which was why she had passed them on. That was supported in our view by her reference to dark humour

631. The third aspect was her evidence given when recalled in relation to a message she had passed on to her group of friends which related to floods in Pakistan in the most highly offensive terms. She initially described the messages as β€œdark humour”. Her evidence later was that the message had been sent to provoke a reaction, in broad summary. We did not consider that latter evidence to be credible given the content of the message sent and her initial evidence about it. In our view it was an untruthful attempt to downplay what she had done, which she recognised as having included very offensive material. We consider that it was clear beyond serious argument that the author or authors of the original message considered the remarks humorous, and that the claimant had also considered them humorous which was why she had passed them on. That was supported in our view by her reference to dark humour

Oooft. Sandie Peggie shared highly offensive messages and was then "untruthful" in giving evidence to the Tribunal.

This is the 'hero' Gender Critical campaigners have chosen.

08.12.2025 14:34 β€” πŸ‘ 630    πŸ” 147    πŸ’¬ 3    πŸ“Œ 11

I keep thinking of Beth Upton today, who won against an absolutely foul, racist bigot, and should be having the best day, but is still being monstered by our entire media, for the crime of merely existing as her authentic self and doing a job in the NHS that helps people, all day every day.

08.12.2025 21:37 β€” πŸ‘ 406    πŸ” 124    πŸ’¬ 4    πŸ“Œ 0
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Have just been interviewed about the β€˜Peggie’ case for BBC Scotland.

I’ll be travelling when it is broadcast this evening, so pleased to hear what others think.

Immediate β€˜takeaways’ from (1272 paragraph) judgment:

08.12.2025 16:47 β€” πŸ‘ 115    πŸ” 13    πŸ’¬ 4    πŸ“Œ 0

β€œlimited to compiling a peculiar scrapbook”

this is GC life and literature in a nutshell, lol

06.02.2025 07:44 β€” πŸ‘ 42    πŸ” 5    πŸ’¬ 3    πŸ“Œ 0
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🧡 Between 2024 and 2025, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU), the EU's highest Court, issued four important judgments on the rights of trans people in the EU.

πŸ”— Read the whole toolkit on our website: tgeu.org/tgeu-publish...

#cjeu #eu #transrights #transrightsarehumanrights

08.12.2025 16:59 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 2    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Every accusation is a confession.

Labour know they’re toast, and while desperately trying to appease the right wing mob all they do is attack the Greens.

But it won’t work. We know their game, and it’s time for something new.

Join.greenparty.org.uk

08.12.2025 16:49 β€” πŸ‘ 83    πŸ” 13    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 0

Remember: the EHRC's Interim Guidance, and we understand the draft statutory guidance too, recommended a trans bathroom ban. Two tribunals have now disagreed.

08.12.2025 15:57 β€” πŸ‘ 338    πŸ” 87    πŸ’¬ 7    πŸ“Œ 3
879. There is a degree of tension between someone’s sex, which is a matter of
biology assessed at birth, and therefore immutable under the 2010 Act as
held by the Supreme Court, and the basis of the protected characteristic
for those persons to whom section 7 applies. Gender reassignment is
where a process has the purpose of reassigning sex under that section
but in light of FWS that purpose cannot in law be achieved.

879. There is a degree of tension between someone’s sex, which is a matter of biology assessed at birth, and therefore immutable under the 2010 Act as held by the Supreme Court, and the basis of the protected characteristic for those persons to whom section 7 applies. Gender reassignment is where a process has the purpose of reassigning sex under that section but in light of FWS that purpose cannot in law be achieved.

It's almost like every court and tribunal going knows that we are now in breach of Goodwin/I and can't bring themselves to say it...

08.12.2025 16:29 β€” πŸ‘ 8    πŸ” 2    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

it's kinda silly that labour mps come on to bluesky thinking they're going to get anything other than a cold reception but it's wild as all hell that they come on to bluesky and attack the greens.

08.12.2025 16:29 β€” πŸ‘ 48    πŸ” 7    πŸ’¬ 8    πŸ“Œ 0
Scottish Labour MP Joani Reid said: β€œWhat happened to Sandie Peggie was a disgrace.

"Harassment enabled by an NHS culture warped by ideology and fostered by a Scottish Government that has let this virus spread through our institutions.

"Those in NHS Fife who played any part in this cannot stay in post. They’re a risk to public trust and patient safety. They must go."

Scottish Labour MP Joani Reid said: β€œWhat happened to Sandie Peggie was a disgrace. "Harassment enabled by an NHS culture warped by ideology and fostered by a Scottish Government that has let this virus spread through our institutions. "Those in NHS Fife who played any part in this cannot stay in post. They’re a risk to public trust and patient safety. They must go."

I think Joani Reid is a disgrace, actually.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politic...

08.12.2025 14:07 β€” πŸ‘ 153    πŸ” 24    πŸ’¬ 14    πŸ“Œ 28

"[A] person with gender reassignment as a protected characteristic could pursue a claim of direct or indirect discrimination ... if the circumstances so warranted."

Does this mean someone ought to sue Labour for banning trans women from their women's conference, on the basis of discrimination?

08.12.2025 14:33 β€” πŸ‘ 61    πŸ” 3    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Really looking forward to having to prove my sex repeatedly in a restaurant, in the event I want to do something outrageous like order food or go to the lav

08.12.2025 15:38 β€” πŸ‘ 519    πŸ” 104    πŸ’¬ 14    πŸ“Œ 6
Me in front of a giant pic of my fckn face

Me in front of a giant pic of my fckn face

Me last night at an absolute all-timer @vauxhalltavern.bsky.social show, thank you to the epic audience who swung by, loved every moment. And love to perform in front of a massive image of my own face!

08.12.2025 15:44 β€” πŸ‘ 55    πŸ” 1    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

"[The Tribunal held that] Mrs Peggie had in some of her remarks impermissibly manifested her gender
critical beliefs"

So there *is* a floor on this thing. They *can't* just say whatever the hell they like under the banner of protected beliefs. That'll come as a shock to some of them, I'm sure

08.12.2025 13:48 β€” πŸ‘ 306    πŸ” 41    πŸ’¬ 3    πŸ“Œ 1
Sandie Peggie -v- Fife Health Board and another (judgment and summary) - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary Case number: 4104864/2024 Employment Tribunal, Scotland 8 December 2025 Before: Employment Judge A KempTribunal Member L BrownTribunal Member C Russell Between: Mrs Sandie Peggie -v- Fife Health Board...

Decision in the Sandie Peggie case.

She was not directly or indirectly discriminated against, her claim of victimisation fails entirely, her claim of harassment fails largely and her claim against Beth Upton fails entirely. www.judiciary.uk/judgments/sa...

08.12.2025 13:33 β€” πŸ‘ 1780    πŸ” 672    πŸ’¬ 72    πŸ“Œ 145

New EHRC Board meeting minutes are finally up.
These are from May 🫠🫠🫠

www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/defaul...

06.12.2025 16:58 β€” πŸ‘ 38    πŸ” 5    πŸ’¬ 6    πŸ“Œ 1

If you are addicted to heroin you can have your blood tested to help you manage the health risks. But if you are a child trying to access healthcare, in line with international norms, Wes Streeting's position is that you "must" be treated worse.

08.12.2025 11:02 β€” πŸ‘ 435    πŸ” 115    πŸ’¬ 5    πŸ“Œ 5

@coppercats is following 18 prominent accounts