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3. And doing weird stuff like that is how you erode trust in people

Ok, two things:
1. No one is surprised. That's just for clicks. Might as well say "you wont believe #4!" too.

2. WHERE WAS THIS TROVE? It appears to be a timed political releqse rather than released ASAP to expose wrongdoing. That implies additional not hard to guess motives...

Exactly

Ok. How long were they sitting on these? Did they just get them, or sit on them and wait tonrelease to change headlines if the CR fight didnt go their way?

Also I appreciate your thoughtful discussion.

Oh I agree they mishadled it very badly. Im just saying there is no big win possible at the moment, and letting it drag on is not going to change their strategic position.

V?

This is what I keep saying. Also, don't forget influence operations trying to keep US shut down.

This is at least partially incorrect and simplifies a complex set of issues.

Yes. That's not nothing. Again, Dems not in majority.

They couldnt win. They arent in the majority. Best they could hope for is proving they were trying and thus remind people the Republicans chose this path.

Agreed. Dems framed it incorrectly from the outset.

Dems have no viable win here. Getting anything is better than the other choice.

I think many many bot accounts telling both sides of Congress to not "give in", "hold the line", etc. As shutdown and gridlock costs the US a lot, and lets rivals push us back even farther.
Opening Congress requires compromise. When one party is in the majority, they have the upper hand. Vote.

So they can find a path forward that keeps institutions running and shoulder the blame for making the hard call and preserving the "purity" of Dems looking to get elected again

For a month. No pay for 2.5 paychecks. Soon 3.5 paychecks.

This is dumb.

2/2

So, federal workers see:

Creditors dont care.
The public doesn't care.
Congress doesn't care.
Job market is terrible.

But come in to work for free until you go broke. Then what?
Stand in a food line and sell off possessions and try to find a place to live after eviction?
Happy Holidays.

Compromise is how democracy works. Fed workers dont have much longer to go without pay.
Can anyone living paycheck to paycheck miss 3 and a half in a row? Thats what federal workers, still working at the office daily, are about to do.

1/2

Federal workers doing what they always do. Sacrifice for the greater good. Maybe we should pay them.

Some are. Some arent. Kind of luck of the draw right now

And fed workers are going broke today.

Fed workers are going broke today. What about them?

Day 39 of fed employees being sacrificed as pawns for political "leverage." Many now arent going to Dr appointments, car maintenance, haircuts, etc. Several trying to sell possessions to make it to next week. No one cares unless their flight is delayed.

This is interesting.

People are already looking for side jobs. Some people's mortgages are in forbearance now. Its awful and people do not care.

Of cousre the feds doing this work arent being.paid in almost 40 days now...

Also, fed workers are going broke.

Reminder: federal workers are now almost 40 days without pay. Many are now fighting eviction. And Dems are excited to keep pressure on Rs by continuing shutdown. No matter who is in charge, federal workers get betrayed.

Leaf blower is the pro move