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Photograph showing the remains of the B-2 Bomber "Spirit of Kansas" which crashed in Guam. It has been suggested that this might have been the most expensive air-crash in history, with the cost of the incident estimated to be around $1.4 Billion.

23 February 2008: A USAF B-2 Spirit bomber, Spirit of Kansas, crashed immediately after take off from the US base on Guam.

This was the first operational loss of a B-2. #History #Aviation

Expanding ring-shaped remnant of Supernova 1987a, as observed by X-ray and visible light telescopes.

23 February 1987: Supernova 1987a was observed in the Large Magellanic Cloud. #History #Astronomy

Juan Manuel Fangio

23 February 1958: Cuban rebels kidnapped 5-time world driving champion Juan Manuel #Fangio. #History #Cuba #F1

Logo of the International Organization for Standardization

23 February 1947 The International Organization for Standardization was founded, with headquarters in Vernier, Switzerland. #History #ISO

US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima.

23 February 1945: A group of US Marines were photographed raising the American flag at the top of Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima. #History #WW2 #USMC #IwoJima

Front page San Francisco Chronicle, dated 24 February 1942, reporting on the Japanese submarine shelling the Californian coast the previous evening.

23 February 1942: A Japanese submarine (the I-17) fired artillery shells towards the US coastline near Santa Barbara, California.

The barrage caused minor damage to the Ellwood Oil Field. #History #WW2 #USA

Map of the US Naval base at Guantánamo Bay

23 February 1903: #Cuba leased #Guantánamo Bay to the United States "in perpetuity". #History #USA

Portrait photograph of Émile Zola.

23 February 1898: Émile Zola was convicted of criminal libel in #France after writing 'J'Accuse…!', in which he accused the French government of antisemitism and of wrongfully imprisoning Captain Alfred Dreyfus. #History

Zola's conviction would be overturned in April that year.

Plan of The Alamo siege

23 February 1836: The Siege of the #Alamo began in San Antonio, Texas. #History #America #Mexico

1820 etching depicting the stables where the Cato Street conspirators were arrested.

The former stables in Cato Street today. The blue plaque commemorates the arrest of the conspirators.

23 February 1820: Police exposed the "Cato Street Conspiracy" - a plan to assassinate the Prime Minister, Lord Liverpool, and his Cabinet.

The conspirators were arrested in a stable on Cato Street. #History #UK

Gravestone of Dick Turpin, alias John Palmer, in St George's Churchyard, York.

23 February 1739: "John Palmer", a prisoner in York, was identified as the outlaw Dick Turpin by his former schoolteacher, James Smith. #History

Palmer/Turpin would be executed at Tyburn on 7 April 1739.

Pages from the Gutenberg Bible.

23 February 1455: The traditional date for the first publication of the #Gutenberg Bible. #History

Resilient Zelensky tells BBC Putin has started WW3 and must be stopped Ukraine's president sat down with the BBC's Jeremy Bowen in Kyiv days before the four-year anniversary of the war.

"Putin has started WW3 and must be stopped"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...

You don't cite your source.

And I'm no Mountbatten fanboy. I think he was barely competent as a military commander, and we were lucky the war in that theatre ended when it did. Although I'll grant he was handed a poisoned chalice with India.

Yes. 2 enquiries. Only one about Andrew (at least at this time).

I will wait to see what evidence emerges from those enquiries.

I assume you will continue to jump to whatever conclusion supports your existing narrative.

The Secret Intelligence Service (commonly but wrongly called MI6) operates outside the UK.

The Security Service (Commonly MI5, or occasionally Box 500) operated within the UK.

Not semantics. Just interested if you knew even the basics of what you were talking about.

Police asking Andrew's protection officers what 'they saw or heard' as part of Epstein files review The Metropolitan Police says officers have been asked to consider whether anything

The statement from the police made no mention of sex trafficking:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c7...

UK Police forces in the 60s and 70s didn't share information with each other, never mind with outside agencies. So, the Security Service probably wouldn't have known anything about those reports.

Although to be fair, in the 60s they probably had their hands full with the Cambridge spies.

"Secret services forensically monitor the backgrounds of everyone who gets close to the Royal family"

Well, I give you 10/10 for imagination. But 0/10 for factuallity.
"Forensic" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means, and "Secret services" aren't a thing in the UK. Did you mean the SIS?

Indeed, even now, he is only being investigated for misconduct in a public office over his role as trade envoy. Not for sex trafficking.

At the time, AFAIK, there was no evidence that he was complicit in sex trafficking, or even that he was aware she had been trafficked.

Just that he had sex with a 17 year old girl. I mean, yes that's pretty ick, but not actually illegal.

Lots of claims, but very little evidence. One might ask the same question of you.

As for Saville? He was a high-profile public figure on radio and TV in the 1960s and 70s. Maybe that was enough of a reason?
The allegations about him didn't surface until much later.

And while I haven't read Ms Giuffre's allegations in detail, I'm not aware that there were any claims at that time that Andrew had broken any UK laws.

Yep.

The FBI monitored Martin Luther King for decades.

I don't doubt that UK Intelligence services have been monitoring hundreds of high profile people around the world for decades. Many of them are doubtless considered to be a threat. What is your point?

You may have noticed that when the actual evidence in the Epstein files was released people took action (at least on this side of the Pond).

Yes. There is a problem with genuine victims not being believed. Often because of cases like Carl Beech.

That case also showed that there is also a problem with people being ready to believe anything if it is lurid and scurrilous enough.

Maybe because that excerpt also describes them as allegations?

As regards the allegations about Ireland, IIRC the HIA report concluded there was no evidence to support them. But read the report for yourself, as it's a long time since I read it.

I'm sure it's available online.

There is also no evidence that said statue ever existed. Which calls into question the veracity of the 1944 source quoted in that 1957 FBI report.

Viktor Yanukovych

22 February 2014: President Viktor Yanukovych of #Ukraine was impeached by the Verkhovna Rada (parliament) of Ukraine by a vote of 328–0. #History