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Denmark. Brexit as seen from the EU side of the channel.

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โ€ฆand twice on Sundays.

11.08.2025 13:37 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

This โฌ†๏ธ, every time.

11.08.2025 13:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆinquired about membership in the 80s on the basis of not being a European country. No such problem with the current applicants or the UK.

11.08.2025 13:37 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆcandidate but their process has been frozen for years now.

Neither the EU nor its citizens needs to disqualify anyone. All we need to do is make the criteria open and transparentโ€ฆand they areโ€ฆeverything else is up to the applicant (potential or otherwise).

Morocco was formally denied when they

11.08.2025 13:35 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Not necessary.

All European countries are free to apply. That includes the UK.

CC, article 49, the EU acquisโ€ฆ.all applies and everything is open for inspection by the potential applicants.

If an applicant doesnโ€™t adhere to the above they will end up next to Turkey which is formally still aโ€ฆ

11.08.2025 13:33 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

All in or all out. It canโ€™t be more easy to understand than that.

11.08.2025 13:30 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Exactly. Also, as a sub-text, there are only two statuses: in or out.
There is no "heart of Europe" as per above โฌ†๏ธ.
There is no mythical special place that the UK would "deserve" (by virtue of its economy, maybe?) if and when it becomes a M/S again, with special privileges and power. 1/2

11.08.2025 13:24 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 2    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It simply does not exist.
All M/S have equal voice (e.g. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช during Brexit negs)
That's why we have a rotating Presidency of the ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บCouncil - so that each M/S can take turn to promote its own vision+agenda - as well as the agenda of the Council as a whole.
Until๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡งunderstands this,it's better kept out.2/2

11.08.2025 13:26 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆin the past.

None of them have ever left the EU.

11.08.2025 13:28 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

The UK is not a member.

What special deals exists for MSs is of zero relevance.

The rules have changed.

None of the MSs that donโ€™t use the Euro have a rival currency. None of them have a financial center the size of the CoL. None of them have used those things to undermine/blackmail the EUโ€ฆ

11.08.2025 13:28 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

They donโ€™t have to applyโ€ฆif they donโ€™t want the EU acquis they should just stay where they areโ€ฆworks very well for the EU.

11.08.2025 13:25 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 3    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

All correctโ€ฆall important.

No way around them.

11.08.2025 13:24 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It is ignorance and arrogance in equal measures. It sadly shows us that nothing has changed since 2016 and that the UK is simply not a serious candidate.

11.08.2025 13:22 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Adopting โ‚ฌ is a requirement to apply to Art.49. Why the EU would refuse to do it ?

11.08.2025 06:57 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆfar more serious).

11.08.2025 13:21 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

* โ€ฆwould be allowedโ€ฆ

**โ€ฆundermined the EU and the Euro as a member, frequently blackmailing the EU.

There is no such thing as a former member.

All applicants apply under article 49. No special treatment for the UKโ€ฆit would derail the process with all the other candidates (candidates that are

11.08.2025 13:21 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

The UK has to adopt the Euro. All new applicants have to. The rules have changed since 1973 when the UK originally joined.

Even if it wasnโ€™t a requirement, it is, there is no way that the UK would allow to enter the EU with their currency being a rival. We know how the UK frequently undermines the

11.08.2025 13:18 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

The UK is not ready.

These kind of polls are not useful.

They change nothing.

Copenhagen criteria and the EU acquis is not going to be changed for any applicant.

11.08.2025 13:15 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Look at that!
"Our place is within the EU" ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฃ
Does the EU, its Member States, its citizens, get a say as to whether they believe the UK belong in it? Of course not, just do as you're told, ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ!
The entitlement, the arrogance...
Let's keep ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง out, tyvm.

11.08.2025 06:54 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 3    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆit where it falls short. The applicant falls in line or remains on the outside.

11.08.2025 13:13 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

In general it is entitlement/exceptionalism or arrogance mixed with ignorance.

Too many see the UK, as an applicant, as being equal to the EU, it is of course not even close to being a correct observation.

The application process is not a negotiation. The applicant applies. The EU tellsโ€ฆ

11.08.2025 13:13 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Either these people don't get that Art. 49 is an application process or they've never applied for a job in their life.
1/ When applying for a job,the recruiter will state their requirements.Some requirements will be "must have" (e.g., Copenhagen criteria, accepting the Acquis incl. โ‚ฌ and Schengen)

11.08.2025 07:13 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Other requirements are "Nice to have" (e.g. a strong economy).

2/ When applying for a job, going in with "my place is in your company" may not be the best approach and strategy ๐Ÿ˜‚

11.08.2025 07:14 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Most people have very little knowledge about these things and frankly donโ€™t care but of course give an answer when prompted.

None of this changes the fact that the UK has to qualify (they donโ€™t) and accept the entire EU acquis (including the Euro) which they donโ€™t.

11.08.2025 13:10 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆthem back inside. The status quo favours the EU.

The UK might desperately need the EU but the reverse is simply not true.

11.08.2025 13:08 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

โ€ฆimports of food products would collapse if they did.

The UK was constantly undermining the EU when they were a member, they are far easier to control now. We can get what ever we need from them without risking that again.

The UK has to fundamentally change if it is to be worth it to us to allow

11.08.2025 13:07 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I gave you factsโ€ฆyou didnโ€™t like them.

The reason why the EUs export to the UK hasnโ€™t fallen much is because they need our products.

We donโ€™t have to allow them a seat at the table for us to sell to them. They accept our standards and doesnโ€™t even check our products upon entry because their

11.08.2025 13:04 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Indeed.

A quick look at the list of EU MSs also makes it clear that size is not a criteria for membership.

11.08.2025 12:59 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Indeed.

11.08.2025 12:53 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

But where's the evidence the UK would ever be compliant? They first threatened to leave just two years after joining and were never really on board the whole time they were members but transactional, as Kathy said.

11.08.2025 11:01 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

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