Gorgon Zola

Who is this y'all?

There have been at least 3 orders in the last couple years that blatantly overrule the plain reading of the constitution.

That's not salvageable

Because the Supreme Court is part of the fascist takeover? We can't move forward if we can't hold criminals in robes accountable. What they say about the law isn't the law. They literally just made bribery charges impossible while being guilty of bribery. Why care what they think?

The president can do whatever he wants as long as he's a republican is the current form of government. If Trump canceled all student debt, it would be gone tomorrow

Lol @ gave the voters the wrong idea.

Is Trump giving the voters the wrong idea that he can just build concentration camps?

Obviously the president CAN do those things

This isn't a moral response

I never use genocide Joe either?

Trump keeps strong arming leaders into nominating him for the Nobel peace prize... lol

Negative. You guys can't argue with what I say.. so you make things up to argue now?

I don't hate Harris? Where have you gotten that?

Lol. Yes there are.
Also... I've stated so many times that I voted for Harris and likely did more to get her elected than most in this discussion?

But covering for her failures? Nope.

Everyone has agency except the bad guys

Voting for Trump is. Not. Defensible.

That's a defensible position. It's also a defensible position to say that you can't vote for a continuance for Biden's blind abetting of the murder of family civilians.

The fault solely lies with the other half of the country here

But zionists aren't bigots? Even as they cheer on the forced removal of Palestinians in a clear act of ethnic cleansing?

No... it's the people who are appalled by such behavior that are the real bigots

It's unfortunate for you, then, that the segment of people using those liberation chants as nonviolent slogans is increasing, further murkying the waters.

Maybe policy changes should have happened before nonviolent people were convinced

Yes. Palestinians have been oppressed and abused for generations. This has, in fact, created a population that is desperate, angry, and prone to radicalization.

But we never want to talk about how we got here

No. I'm saying that if the atrocities committed by a group confers group punishment as a justice, then Israel would have, first, been responsible for its own October 7th. An argument equally reprehensible to me.

And they didn't either... as a cursory review of the demographics would show.

But you ignored the facts in order to blame them for their eradication.

Cool. So you're not responsible for the actions of your fascist government, but they are

It's everyone's fault but the fascists!

Do you feel like you're responsible for rounding up all these Hispanics into concentration camps in Louisiana and Florida?

Yes... it's still bad faith to swap between the two as it suits.

Terribly racist too

This is the bad faith bullshit... claiming they elected them... without mentioning that it was 20 years ago and no other elections have been held and the median age in Gaza is 17.

Bad faith

I don't need to go read a Wikipedia page because you can't make a coherent argument. You haven't named a single thing you feel is absent in Gaza that is required for genocide. Just one?

If someone can't figure out the difference between hamas and Palestinians, I don't care what they think or to convince them of anything... because they're not arguing in good faith or they're an idiot

Probably the part where you listed a bunch of things that are happening in both places?

Fuck off with your bait and switch

If the discourse, instead, solidified on exactly what Israel was doing that the protesters objected to... maybe the room settles differently.

The story became how stupid the protesters... which is silly seeing as where we are now

But that's because the discourse allowed one side to solidify on "Israel can do no wrong"

That's the reason nothing will stick... not because they got 7 months jumpy