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Sean Raymond (planetplanet.net)

@planetplanet.bsky.social

Building crazy planetary systems on my blog planetplanet.net. Solar System formation. Exoplanets. Free-floating planets and interstellar objects. Astronomy poem book: http://amzn.to/3muytqo He/him.

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Constellations of co-orbital planets – planetplanet

The main challenge is the alternating prograde and retrograde rings of planets.

To build a single ring, I think you's need to pass through a horseshoe constellation phase (see planetplanet.net/2023/04/20/c...) and then damp out the librations. Obviously not feasible for humanity at the moment....

10.10.2025 17:40 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

I guess it would be transits, not eclipses, but if the planets had moons they would also be blocking the light from the other planets all the time. A very astronomically-engaging place to be!

10.10.2025 14:55 β€” πŸ‘ 4    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
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New animation of the ultimate engineered solar system for a talk I'm giving tomorrow at a sci-fi convention in Lithuania.

It has 400 rocky planets in the habitable zone of a single Sun-like star

It's perfectly stable (I simulated it out to about a billion years)

planetplanet.net/2017/05/03/t...

10.10.2025 13:51 β€” πŸ‘ 39    πŸ” 13    πŸ’¬ 5    πŸ“Œ 0
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AAS members are on the Hill today to #SaveNASAScience and advocate for sustained funding for NASA, NSF, and our nation's other science agencies! Help us amplify their voices by calling and writing to your Congressional offices today: aas.org/action-alert...

06.10.2025 14:09 β€” πŸ‘ 29    πŸ” 14    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 3
Tidal Limits to Planetary Habitability The habitable zones (HZs) of main-sequence stars have traditionally been defined as the range of orbits that intercept the appropriate amount of stellar flux to permit surface water on a planet. Terrestrial exoplanets discovered to orbit M stars in these zones, which are close-in due to decreased stellar luminosity, may also undergo significant tidal heating. Tidal heating may span a wide range for terrestrial exoplanets and may significantly affect conditions near the surface. For example, if heating rates on an exoplanet are near or greater than that on Io (where tides drive volcanism that resurfaces the planet at least every 1 Myr) and produce similar surface conditions, then the development of life seems unlikely. On the other hand, if the tidal heating rate is less than the minimum to initiate plate tectonics, then CO<SUB>2</SUB> may not be recycled through subduction, leading to a runaway greenhouse that sterilizes the planet. These two cases represent potential boundaries to habitability and are presented along with the range of the traditional HZ for main-sequence, low-mass stars. We propose a revised HZ that incorporates both stellar insolation and tidal heating. We apply these criteria to GJ 581 d and find that it is in the traditional HZ, but its tidal heating alone may be insufficient for plate tectonics.

See for example this paper : ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009ApJ....

09.09.2025 20:16 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

Thanks!

If there was a very large amount of internal heat flux from tidal dissipation, it would likely be bad for habitability if the planet is close to the inner edge of the habitable zone, or good if it's beyond (colder).

The planet's orbit would also change (slowly) due to tidal dissipation.

09.09.2025 20:15 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
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Wild Orbits Prime Planets for Life Looking for habitable worlds? Check the ones with extreme swings.

In my new @nautil.us article, I use a lot of recent research to argue that rocky exoplanets on eccentric orbits are often very good candidates for life.

(At least, eccentric/inclined orbits should not be used as a negative for habitability)

nautil.us/wild-orbits-...

09.09.2025 07:55 β€” πŸ‘ 10    πŸ” 1    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

It would be interesting to see what the mass ratio threshold is for stability -- does it have to be 1.000000 or could it be 1.01, 1.1, 2., ...?

03.09.2025 21:43 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
Survival and dynamics of rings of co-orbital planets under perturbations In co-orbital planetary systems, two or more planets share the same orbit around their star. Here we test the dynamical stability of co-orbital rings of planets perturbed by outside forces. We test tw...

Ask away. In terms of stability, eccentric rings are clearly stable for billions of years if left undisturbed. I wrote a paper about the dynamical stability of the circular-orbit case when it's perturbed -- it's more robust than you might think.

ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2023MNRA...

03.09.2025 16:20 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
Survival and dynamics of rings of co-orbital planets under perturbations In co-orbital planetary systems, two or more planets share the same orbit around their star. Here we test the dynamical stability of co-orbital rings of planets perturbed by outside forces. We test tw...

I haven't studied that carefully for eccentric rings. For circular rings of planets, I wrote a paper about it. The punchline is that they're pretty robust. When kicked, these systems often transition to a horseshoe state, unless they're kicked really hard...

ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2023MNRA...

03.09.2025 16:18 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

That's a great idea to check!

03.09.2025 16:16 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
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Here's something new and weird -- eccentric rings of co-orbital planets.

They are stable indefinitely, from an orbital point of view.

Could they actually form and exist?

planetplanet.net/2025/09/02/e...

02.09.2025 21:17 β€” πŸ‘ 32    πŸ” 9    πŸ’¬ 4    πŸ“Œ 3
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Flashback to 2012 when I ate the Sun

(Photo from the top of Vulcano in Sicily)

29.08.2025 15:03 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
a 19th century embroidery sampler showing the solar system, the distance of the planets from the sun, and the length of time it takes each planet to circle the sun

a 19th century embroidery sampler showing the solar system, the distance of the planets from the sun, and the length of time it takes each planet to circle the sun

Imagine the complicated and precious genius of the girl who made this embroidery sampler in 1811

The Solar System, sampler, unknown maker, 1811, England. Museum no. T.92-1939. Victoria and Albert Museum, London.

27.08.2025 23:01 β€” πŸ‘ 1003    πŸ” 316    πŸ’¬ 19    πŸ“Œ 31
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HST Has Conclusively Shown that Avi Loeb is Wrong About 3I/ATLAS The recent JWST observations have firmly shown that 3I/ATLAS is a cometβ€”an interesting and anomalous one in some ways, but definitely not a spacecraft. This has not stopped Avi Loeb from continuing to...

Sigh.
sites.psu.edu/astrowright/...

26.08.2025 15:53 β€” πŸ‘ 45    πŸ” 8    πŸ’¬ 7    πŸ“Œ 2
Next comes a by-now routine dismissal of astronomical observations, in order to claim 3I/ATLAS’s dusty coma (which does exist: de la Fuente Marcos et al.; Seligman et al.; Bolin et al.) does not exist and is just photographic fuzz. What would be bold and novel would be to lean in to the observations of dust and assert that any spaceship coming in hot from the interstellar medium would be very dirty and in need of a wash.

Next comes a by-now routine dismissal of astronomical observations, in order to claim 3I/ATLAS’s dusty coma (which does exist: de la Fuente Marcos et al.; Seligman et al.; Bolin et al.) does not exist and is just photographic fuzz. What would be bold and novel would be to lean in to the observations of dust and assert that any spaceship coming in hot from the interstellar medium would be very dirty and in need of a wash.

Impacts by interstellar dust particles and interstellar gas particles can easily create a thin layer of dust on the surface of 3I/ATLAS, with no accompanying ices if 3I/ATLAS is not a comet. The interstellar speed of 3I/ATLAS is ~60 kilometers per second relative to the local interstellar medium. Any impacting matter would deliver ten times more energy per impacting proton than required to break a single chemical bond within the solid surface. The microscopic breakup of the surface to super-micron fragments by interstellar impactors, such as dust, gas and cosmic-ray particles, might have led over billions of years to the formation of large dust particles that are released close to the Sun and account for the glow ahead of 3I/ATLAS in its Hubble image.

Impacts by interstellar dust particles and interstellar gas particles can easily create a thin layer of dust on the surface of 3I/ATLAS, with no accompanying ices if 3I/ATLAS is not a comet. The interstellar speed of 3I/ATLAS is ~60 kilometers per second relative to the local interstellar medium. Any impacting matter would deliver ten times more energy per impacting proton than required to break a single chemical bond within the solid surface. The microscopic breakup of the surface to super-micron fragments by interstellar impactors, such as dust, gas and cosmic-ray particles, might have led over billions of years to the formation of large dust particles that are released close to the Sun and account for the glow ahead of 3I/ATLAS in its Hubble image.

Still can't get over @deschscoveries.bsky.social parodying Loeb, and Loeb straight-up playing out the parody a 3 days later.

Is Desch a clairvoyant, or did Loeb read this mockery of him and thinkβ€”hey, that's actually a great idea!β€”and just plagiarize him?!

18.08.2025 02:57 β€” πŸ‘ 81    πŸ” 9    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 0
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There’s No β€œI” in Team. But There Is One in β€œALIENS” Yelling β€œTarantulas!” in a crowded movie theater has its time and place. If you’re enduring Madame Web, everyone will be relieved you…

My complaints have not yet been resolved.

medium.com/@steve.desch...

15.08.2025 10:09 β€” πŸ‘ 77    πŸ” 19    πŸ’¬ 5    πŸ“Œ 6
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3I/ATLAS. A cat on my balcony (En espaΓ±olΒ  aquΓ­ ) Β S ummary Β Β  Β  Recently, a new interstellar object passing through our solar system has been discovered: 3I/ATLAS. Thi...

Loeb’s bad science flies out faster than any one of us should have to deal with it. For a nice explanation of what’s wrong with many of his claims I have not addressed, see @hectorsocas.bsky.social ’s work here: tinieblasyestrellas.blogspot.com/2025/08/3iat...

12.08.2025 00:06 β€” πŸ‘ 26    πŸ” 12    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 2

Me neither -- it's really tricky to understand why our results are different. Either taking the Moon quadrupole into account is critical, or sampling different possible configurations for the flyby is essential.

10.07.2025 18:25 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
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Every living NASA science chief unites in opposition to unprecedented… The entire past leadership of NASA’s science activities have released a joint statement condemning the proposed 47% cuts proposed to the agency’s science…

Today, *every* living prior leader of NASA's science directorate have released a joint letter condemning the proposed cuts to NASA science. These individuals every administration from Reagan to Biden, and all believe these cuts are insanely destructive: www.planetary.org/press-releas...

07.07.2025 21:11 β€” πŸ‘ 1391    πŸ” 607    πŸ’¬ 11    πŸ“Œ 22

Folks need to remember that public funding of science drives economic growth and human quality of life decades into the future.

This is about more than saving jobs on the line now. It's about your future health, and the future of health and well-being for the next several generations.

07.07.2025 19:19 β€” πŸ‘ 77    πŸ” 27    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
The giant planet instability (the β€œNice model”) – planetplanet

I suppose I should add that there is a lot more to know about the giant planet instability. I captured some of that in this blog post

planetplanet.net/2022/06/30/t...

30.06.2025 16:10 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
NASA science budget over time

NASA science budget over time

Planned NASA mission cancelations

Planned NASA mission cancelations

The details are not yet finalized, but the budget bill would devastate NASA science and the future of US exploration in space and astronomy. Among many other things. πŸ”­πŸ§ͺ

www.planetary.org/articles/nas...

30.06.2025 12:35 β€” πŸ‘ 447    πŸ” 226    πŸ’¬ 18    πŸ“Œ 26
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Could the Solar System Lose a Planet to a Passing Star? Close stellar encounters could change the structure of our planetary system, potentially dooming Earth or other worlds to oblivion

Oh hey I didn't know you were here! I wrote about it too. πŸ˜„

www.scientificamerican.com/article/coul...

29.06.2025 22:03 β€” πŸ‘ 5    πŸ” 1    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Awesomel! I hadn't seen your article -- much appreciated!

30.06.2025 04:22 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
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This Is Not the Way We Usually Imagine the World Will End

@nytimes.com article about Nate Kaib's and my recent paper on the future stability of the Solar System when passing stars are accounted for.

www.nytimes.com/2025/06/28/s...

29.06.2025 20:51 β€” πŸ‘ 24    πŸ” 7    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 0
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Like dinosaurs, Saturn and Jupiter roamed
They sculpted this system that humans call home

The gas giants roared, the system unstable
An ice giant planet fell right off the table!
A whole ring of comets was launched to the stars
The planets β€” bombarded β€” still bear the scars.

28.06.2025 22:56 β€” πŸ‘ 20    πŸ” 7    πŸ’¬ 2    πŸ“Œ 1
Les planΓ¨tes tueuses de monde: L’histoire chaotique des systΓ¨mes planΓ©taires
YouTube video by Balade Mentale Les planΓ¨tes tueuses de monde: L’histoire chaotique des systΓ¨mes planΓ©taires

I was the scientific advisor for the latest video by Balade Mentale about "World-Killer Planets: The Chaotic History of Planetary Systems" (in French)

youtu.be/_6J9axX3r08?...

12.06.2025 08:13 β€” πŸ‘ 1    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
The Lindy effect and the stability of planetary systems – planetplanetExpandFacebookTwitterInstagramSearchToggle MenuPreviousContinueContinueContinueContinueContinueContinueExpandToggle Menu CloseSear...

The Lindy Effect and the stability of planetary systems.

Here's one way of thinking about why planetary systems go unstable, and when.

planetplanet.net/2025/06/11/t...

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