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The latter are generally the people who created or were influenced by the Waddell-Aylward-Wessely-et al BPS models and see LC as PVFS/PIFS/CFS 2.0, just as they did the other Pisoniviricetes that induce ME, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes and many other conditions.

Prior to the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, the acronym COVID stood for coronavirus-induced disease (a category that included any and all coronavirus-induced diseases). Using this definition, Long Covid would include all the long-term coronavirus-induced diseases and their component signs, symptoms, etc.

You'd hope so. Some seem to consider it optional.

And then there's the problem of virologists et al using outdated taxonomies, missing the new(ish)ly found genetic similarities between pathogens and being mystified by SARS2 not acting like flu, but mysteriously developing multiple IACC/ME-like signs, symptoms, syndromes and diseases… picorna-like.

It has its good days but most of what I've seen still has echoes from the wrong end of the 1980s.

It reads like old, mild CFS material of the Fukuda era. Nary a pwME was described in this piece, and certainly none severe.

The spike is the key to the room, not the room occupant, their pet or the contents of their luggage. There's too much focus on the key and not enough on the other factors.

I suspect that if the event were held somewhere other than the home of psychobehavioural attitudes, it would be. This is "sheep in wolf skin" going into the den of the leader of the pack to challenge the carnivorous.

True, the UNSW members of COFFI may be too "busy" to attend, but it's important that they are not the only voice on campus. A UNSW professor is advertising the event in X/Twitter.

I've not seen much of that data. Have seen some of the prevalence reporting showing multiple Pisoniviricetes in play over the last 5 years. How many 3C(L) proteases, etc does one have to collect to be truly "healthy"?

Not simple, but very Hickie et al 2006, not EV-ME.

You could say the same about CVBs: multiple diseases, pathways to disability, risk of death, few treatments, no cures. And a target of gaslighting from the same gaslighters.

Just another Pisoniviricetes virus out on a jaunt. (Yep, some of the others do it, too.)

Much more. Coronaviruses are related to enteroviruses (polio, cardiovascular diseases, neurological diseases, diabetes, sudden death, miscarriage, birth defects, developmental abnormalities, neonatal sepsis, ALS,…) and inducing much the same range of conditions, sometimes alongside other classmates.

Also, PIFS/PVFS after Ross River is generally self-limiting. Ignoring recovery may also prolong recovery.

It's difficult to tolerate.

I'm sure you are quite subtle…in a colloquial Australian way…and, of course, disarming.
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lol I have heard you both and you are no slouch, in that department.

I look forward to it.

I've been in this space since 2017, n-=1 of 44y this month.

*in case

"This" being the functional model long touted by members of COFFI and Oslo Chronic Fatigue Network, on case I wasn't clear enough. You're one of the good guys, David.

It's a touchy subject that will raise hackles if they don't know the players or the turf. Brilliant move, taking it to UNSW. 😁
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"This" is the gaslighty heck that's posed as the dominant medical model for infection-associated illnesses, especially those that mostly affect women. This particular version has been evolving for four decades.

On the contrary, this is taking the bio into the psychosocial heartland.

Living with disabilities is a masterclass in how to handle gaslighting

You get it from everyone. Doctors, family, friends, bosses, colleagues

A neverending litany of people telling you “it can’t be THAT bad” or “you should just do this”

We are the experts in our bodies. Respect us. Listen to us.

Not disagreeing with your point. :) It's a pointy tip of the iceberg, from my perspective.

Interaction between coxsackievirus B3 infection and α-synuclein in models of Parkinson’s disease Parkinson’s disease (PD) is one of the most common neurodegenerative diseases. PD is pathologically characterized by the death of midbrain dopaminergic neurons and the accumulation of intracellular pr...

Usually, yes, though it can persist to cause problems later. There are many CVB-associated conditions that are rarely mentioned beyond their narrow research fields, including ME, ALS, Type 1 diabetes, myopathies, ARDS & others now recorded after SARS2 infection.
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Coxsackie B (now serotypes of Enterovirus betacoxsackie).

I suspected the Parkinson's, but not read much more widely than its intersection/association with CVB infection.