I have become convinced that political maturity in DSA requires factions to conclude that "winning DSA" is either unobtainable or inadvisable and grow comfortable with the idea that if they want to get anything done in the org, they'll need to compromise with people outside of their particular niche
11.08.2025 00:34 β π 3 π 2 π¬ 1 π 0
The activist or "ultra" org will fall victim of pretty much all cadre organizations. It will devolve into a tiny sect focus on reading groups and paper sales. Pathetic and irrelevant. So either Our Revolution or the Spartakus League, thats the fate if DSA fails to hold itself together.
11.08.2025 00:02 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
I think if, God forbid, DSA ever does split, the resulting two orgs will go end up as encapsulations of the typical end in the US left. The electoralist org will fall into the Democratic Party in a vain attempt to reform it. It will be absorbed, consumed, digested, and spat out.
11.08.2025 00:02 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
As a proud product of such miscegenation (I like calling it that instead of intermarriage cause it pissed of the bigots) I take this matter pretty seriously and with a high level of spite
10.08.2025 21:02 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
Minus the ultra orthodox, every Jewish institution in the US has been slowly losing members for years. But I'd love to see a comparison between those denomations that have welcomed intermarriage families vs those who shamed them. Something tells me turning away Jews has not been a winning strategy
10.08.2025 21:00 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
Live reporting from DSA Con
10.08.2025 18:11 β π 14 π 2 π¬ 1 π 0
I can't believe I'm DSA posting again.
But this is exactly right. Have we not been witness to the ascendancy of a Right that has wholeheartedly embraced contradiction? Has that not been the key to their success?
10.08.2025 15:18 β π 3 π 1 π¬ 1 π 0
THIS! The activist side of dsa, and electoralism side of dsa need each other. Electoralism helps get dsa a lot of attention in the mainstream. While the activist side keeps us attached to the many left movements in the USA. We need this to continue.
10.08.2025 17:33 β π 5 π 2 π¬ 1 π 0
The Americans have unleashed a death cult on this world. Their pro-Israel policy is dominated by messianic Christian Zionists and now we see that theyβre willing to effectively declare war on humanityβs ability to survive and adapt
10.08.2025 10:29 β π 155 π 90 π¬ 0 π 3
What the fuck has these fuckers said about Myanmar anyway? And when was the last time the US wrote billions in blank checks for arms to Myanmar!
10.08.2025 14:00 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
They're really still going with "it's unfair to focus on OUR emotional support genocide," huh
10.08.2025 11:40 β π 38 π 3 π¬ 2 π 0
The real proof of this is going to be Zohran. The success of his mayoralship will be directly proportional to the strength of the left mass movements in NYC. That requires a vision of an inside/outside approach thats both supportive of him in office but still building independent activist movements
10.08.2025 13:58 β π 8 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
Sorry to get all dialectics here, but it is the synthesis between the activist mass movement approach and the electoralism approach that has allowed DSA to be as successful as it has to date and will be in the future. A better understanding of that on both sides would be to everyone's benefit
10.08.2025 13:55 β π 10 π 1 π¬ 1 π 0
Activist left DSA needs the electoralists because its the electeds who make it easier to pass the reforms/measures the activists are fighting for. And the right electoralists need the activists because without mass movements they elected socialists have nothing to overcome establishment resistance.
10.08.2025 13:55 β π 12 π 1 π¬ 3 π 0
Maybe I'm a minority in an increasingly divided DSA but I actually think maintenence of the detente between the left "activist" "ultra" and the right "electoralist" is a good thing for both sides and is necessary for both to achieve their stated goal. Any split would be devastating to both.
10.08.2025 13:55 β π 43 π 4 π¬ 2 π 2
Listen partner, this towns not big enough for two idiot pieces of shit who only talk about how successful their dad was while having no discernible skills of their own
09.08.2025 22:51 β π 2114 π 297 π¬ 37 π 8
AOC being expelled would be a waste of time and a general clusterfuck. AOC leaving on her own is probably inevitable. Its going to suck for recruitment sure but we got to prepare for that eventuality sooner or later, with or without the anti-zionist resolution. This crash out seem hyperbolic
10.08.2025 02:04 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
That amendment to be honest always seemed pretty small potatoe so I'm surprised people are getting so bent out of shape about it not passing
10.08.2025 01:46 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
That said I'm curious. Is all of this stuff from the more electoralist end of DSA crashing out about "ultras" and "large chapters should succeed" just complaining about the 'one member 1 vote' amendment failing or is there anything else significant going on?
10.08.2025 01:44 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 2 π 1
I'm as usual happy that ever since I left the Nazi site I've been able to avoid much DSA related drama, or at least am getting it only in a filtered and distilled form.
10.08.2025 01:40 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 2 π 0
Rep. Mike Flood of Nebraska was booed at nearly every turn by a crowd that soon started chanting, βVote him out!β
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09.08.2025 19:12 β π 162 π 40 π¬ 9 π 2
Poetry isnt my thing so I cant speak on this or that poet's quality as an artist. But I will not suffer any discussion of Ezra Pound that doesnt include the fact he was to his core and to his dying day a violent anti-semite and a fascist who directly worked for Italian Fascism and the Nazis
09.08.2025 17:37 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
You know what we call a sympathizer of fascists? A fascist. I dont care for his reason, he was what he was
09.08.2025 17:32 β π 3 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
I mean Ezra Pound was a fascist fascist. Full, to his bones, fascist. On top of being a deeply antisemitic piece of shit, he actively worked for the Nazis and Italian fascists before and during the war, including directly invovled in the Holocaust. He should have been hung as a traitor
09.08.2025 17:28 β π 1 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
I think in the left's case there was the assumption that those institutions truly represented a new baseline status quo. That they were now the starting point for launching off for something better. The possibility for such a fundamental rollback wasnt considered
09.08.2025 10:08 β π 2 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib opened the Democratic Socialists of America convention with a fiery speech, condemning the facilitation of the Israeli governmentβs genocide by weaponizing food as a tool of war.
09.08.2025 04:39 β π 5 π 4 π¬ 0 π 0
He truly hated the French, and for that i can at least respect him
09.08.2025 09:44 β π 7 π 0 π¬ 0 π 0
He also admired Franco
09.08.2025 09:42 β π 28 π 0 π¬ 2 π 0
Trump and Putin to meet in Alaska next Friday for Ukraine war talks - follow live
The president confirms a meeting with his Russian counterpart will go ahead on US soil on 15 August.
excited to see who freaks out about trump meeting a war criminal on US soil when itβs putin but didnβt care when it was netanyahu
09.08.2025 00:10 β π 191 π 32 π¬ 3 π 2
Honestly im surprised its only 2 hours lol
09.08.2025 00:54 β π 0 π 0 π¬ 1 π 0
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