Will

I shouldn't be but I'm still kind of shocked that the Labour party has ended up in this position. I'm really hoping there's a massive rebellion and change of course but not counting on it

Just ignores the clear evidence all around us.

This is a man who has attacked immigrants for decades and said:

"Any normal and fair-minded person would have a perfect right to be concerned if a group of Romanian people suddenly moved in next door."

Like come on! Be serious.

‘Deeply shocking’: Nigel Farage faces fresh claims of racism and antisemitism at school Bafta-winning director among contemporaries urging contrition and apology from Reform UK leader, who denies the allegations

The think that strikes me about this article isn't the repeated examples of Farage's racism, it's the way that his blatant racism is positioned as unknowable and subjective.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-...

The racists at my school did and the non-racists didn't. Although the racists didn't have complete supremacy like they must've at Dulwich.

There's a lot of character already defined by the time you hit your teens though

Labour would be able to go on the attack against Farage over his lifelong racism if it weren't for the fact that they are currently being pretty racist*

*with the exception of the MPs who have called them out, but let's see votes match rhetoric

Bombing Polish railways is yet another provocation by Russia. Without a response they will do more

Fair point, I don't know what claims your original post was referring to. It makes it worse for me though (reading the forewords on top of the policy details I'd already read).

There is going to be a line for all Labour voters, it's just a question of where you draw it. I know I was one.

Maybe the line isn't Palestinians or trans people or disabled people or refugees.

But there will be a line somewhere before the next election so how about sending them that message now?

If blue Labour cannot be purged from within then voters will just have to purge them from without

I've read it. It makes it worse. Not only are the same policy details there, it's wrapped in language from Starmer and Mahmood about safe country.

It's also written around several blatant lies, including "We have become the destination of choice in Europe"

5th overall, 17th per head. Disgusting.

By credible did you mean abhorrent?

What we should do as a society is listen to the people with personality disorders about interpersonal relationships. What could go wrong?

I hate that she dares to try to speak for all of us with such a twisted argument.

What she's selling is white supremacy. The idea that if the 'true' citizens are upset, as evidenced by abuse towards her, then she has moral duty to join them and put a stop to the things they dislike.

(That this isn't even a majority opinion doesn't matter. See The march on Rome etc.)

Data point for leadership - former member and lifelong voter planning to not vote Labour in the foreseeable future. It's fine though because the party is currently polling so well right?

P.S. I appreciate your defense of Labour values though

McSweeney believes the grid is a strategy to bury good news for some reason though. Also this government needs to go

Mike Tapp is a Tory pretending to be Labour. Even his necktie. But mostly his politics

Thank you for standing up for what is right

Trans people. Palestinians. Low-income families. People on PIP. Asylum seekers. Refugees. The rot has set in and it needs to be excised not excused.

I'm just so angry. I know you could say that about so many things. But still.

The people these bastards demonise are not their media assigned identities.

They're people. With rights, dreams, fears, affections, hobbies and families.

Every one as valid as any other. Nativists are WRONG.

Victims should join their bullies is not the winning argument she thinks it is.

Guess what. You don't get to speak for minorities while attacking them.

It's a transparent fig leaf.

Anti-racism is not donning a cape and addressing the 'legitimate concerns' of bigots in order to defang an issue. Which doesn't work anyway.

Moral capitulation.

I for one will enjoy the PLP slapping the government out of their current delusion. And watching the Greens demolish Labour majorities in May. And Starmer's eviction. This kind of delusion meets gravity eventually and they can't say they weren't warned

I don't understand why Labour strategists don't understand the strength of feeling they are up against. Who do they talk to?

You've managed to unite the country (for different reasons) in opposing you. Well done.

I tried my best with excuses for so so many things but ran out a while back

Weak and transparent argument

Bring back the golden rule.

And thank you Nadia Whittome. Their double-speak cannot change reality and do NOT unite the country. I will never support these policies.

What possible justification is there to confiscate jewellery from refugees? Abhorrent exploitation of vulnerable people.

And using AI to decide how old people are based on their faces - great idea you morons. Because facial recognition famously has no issues with bias...

Labour MP Brian Leishman: "The Government has surrendered to... the vile rhetoric of Reform. Does the Home Secretary not see that removing the legal obligation to support asylum seekers who will be otherwise destitute, is as far away from Labour Party principles and values as we can get?"

Starmer’s anti-asylum policies show how utterly clueless he is about the right-wing media’s role in politics.

He’s trying to fix a “problem” contrived by Farage, GB News and The Telegraph. He’ll never win, because ultimately he’s fighting a ghost – he’s fighting something that doesn’t really exist

It's still MTG. She might now have decided to speak 'kindly' but she'll be doing so in support of cruel policies. Oh and she's insane and clearly on manoeuvre too

The same person who said Nancy Pelosi was guilty of treason and treason is punishable by death has not had a damascene conversion!