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charlie kirk was a bigoted sack of shit and he thought random gun deaths were an acceptable consequence of having the second amendment, i wonder if he revised that opinion in the brief time between getting shot and dying. didn't think your number would come up, didya charlie

congrats to joe brandon and all the purported defenders of democracy who normalized cracking heads on student protestors in order to cover for israeli genocide. you really greased the skids for ol donnie trump to formally submarine the first amendment

"opinions about America are broadly positive throughout most of the world if you exclude like 2.5 billion of the word's population"

I wonder if you could possibly sink lower, Natalie.

a theory ive been working on -- that what i call "the ruling class" does not have the best interests of what we can call "the working class" at heart -- sadly seems to be being proven true

Yglesias being this stupid is neither new nor unsettling to me, but then his responses in this exchange are more or less representative of what goes on inside the brain of all smug neoliberals. It's how Contrapoints thinks.

wazzzaaaa dude happy birthday lol 😝

hope you’re having a good one wish i was there

Also we all know the secret we share. Into the depths of darkness men like us tread. The hunger that drives us away from the light.

Oh grow up. There’s more to politics than your survival. For instance, my comfort

Israelis using SEO to smear the name of a 6 year old girl they murdered by spraying 300+ rounds at the car she was in.

A liberal. Many examples, but even in her last video (Patreon exclusive) she was brimming with contempt for leftists and explicitly said that she hates it when some people say she's been a gateway to leftism for many, as her goal is to nudge people towards being liberals, not leftists.

I mean there is so much hasbara and historical ignorance just in these lines you wrote that I just instantly regretted engaging with you at all. Astonishing. Off you go.

Indeed. Israel doesn't want peace and it is offensive to the victims of its settler colonial expansion to pretend like it can come in the same sentence as that word, along with its victims. I don't want peace, I want justice and liberation. Also lol at saying US is just "a random country I hate".

I'm one of those people harmed by it. They are still dragging corpses from under the rubble in my country which your country bombed three weeks ago. People in my family were bombed. You need to understand imperialism, and you need to understand that it is not a partisan issue.

I think Wu is just a grifter who has found a money source, whereas Natalie genuinely believes the vapid shit she wrote. Can't bother to think which one is worse.

Your country has been run by imperialists actively destroying the global south for more or less a century now. Pinning this on Trump is hilarious.

If there’s anything that’s “less than useless,” it’s internet personalities giving uninformed opinions about the efficacy of tactics in political movements they are not a part of and clearly do not support.

She doesn't really know that, because she doesn't see people in the global south as fully human. A common issue in the global north, even among progressives. They see atrocities taking place in the global south, and their first instinct is to "intellectualize".

She has none. It's solipsistic whining, as is usually the case with her, particularly in the last two years.

This is the thing with the democrats. They simultaneously portray leftists as an insignificant delusional minority that nobody should pay attention (let alone cater) to, while blaming it for every electoral loss and accusing it of making a huge difference by abstaining from voting.

She doesn't. She's a liberal Zionist, the statement is a masterclass in narcissism, and all of you are better off going offline for a while instead of worshiping youtubers.

No, it's conscious. Natalie is not very young and this attitude of blaming the left (while simultaneously refusing to accept the left is an important group that should be listened to) also existed in 2015, which she also participated it.

The alternative, as can be taken from her other recent tweets, is that people in US should stop caring about the global south, focus on in-group politics inside the country in a partisan manner, and vote blue (she thinks dems will protect women and trans rights, for example). In short, delusion.

Natalie Wynn wants to be a redscare girl and the only reason she can't is because she is a trans woman. Hence, she feels stuck in-between crowds that she hates equally. A difficult position to be in if you don't have much integrity and are not good at touching grass.

/ she has openly denied being, it's not without benefit that her frankly disgusting position on the genocide is now out in the open. People need to remove themselves from her sphere of influence.

/ less rooted in a desire to tangibly help the Palestinian liberation movement and more a desire to continue liking Natalie without worrying about her stance on this. It's parasocial. However, given that she has undeservedly taken a public spot as a "leftist" influencer, something that /

Oh yeah I actually don't think her making videos (especially after the initial couple of months of the genocide) would have helped at all, and I do think some people need to interrogate their own intentions when they just lurk in her replies asking for her to take a stance, because it is /

I'm sad that her statement did not surprise me. Her stances in the last 21 months, particularly since Trump's return were all pointing to this. Her last Patreon exclusive tangent is practically brimming with open hatred of leftists.

This is 100% the case. The post is, above everything else that is wrong with it, so solipsistic. Her feelings are posed as equally important and relevant as the genocide itself, and elaborated on for several paragraphs. It's embarrassing.

It was impossible not to arrive at a point where these motherfuckers would abuse “treatlerite”

Extremely proud of you Shaun