I'm glad he said it's not that binary - I know many people (both work and social) who are all about efficiency in boring processes (like knowing the best path through the grocery store) who are also creative and/or artists - and deeply able to enjoy the process when in creativity mode.

"It is the obligation of those of us born to power or who earn it to wield that power with virtue, because power is no virtue unto itself." -- from Demon in White, by Christopher Ruocchio

I can't decide if that's funny or disturbing or both