The first requirement of any meaningful UK rejoin discussion with the EU is the EU having confidence that the UK means it. This necessitates the unequivocal defeat of the pro-Brexit right. If you are in Brussels currently that looks very unlikely.
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I definitely want independence for Scotland ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ and Cymru/Wales ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟindependence too for #Kernow and whoever else wants independence from Westminster or England and this toxic union that serves England /English and nobody else!. I also Want a United Ireland ๐ฎ๐ช
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The costs of inspections and certificates is not insignificant. As the Government has recently been forced to acknowledge, the inspection of potatoes โcarries a minimum charge of ยฃ127.60 for the first 30 minutes, with an additional fee of ยฃ63.80 for every subsequent 15 minutes. A certificate is issued for each consignment at a cost of ยฃ25.52. Where multiple consignments are presented for inspection at the same time, this allows for more efficient use of inspector time and can reduce the cost per consignmentโ.
As the British Trade Magazine, the Grocer has noted, when dealing with meat and dairy products the cost can be as much as ยฃ200 per certificate. Such charges did not apply to the movement of plant and animal products from GB to Northern Ireland before the imposition of the Irish Sea border in 2021 any more than they applied to such movements within GB then or now.
The minister has sought to suggest that the removal of MAS should not concern Northern Ireland because the traders who benefited from it were based in GB. That, however, is nonsense.
Having spoken to a business that buys in potatoes to Northern Ireland from GB, GB businesses are only content to continue shipping potatoes to NI if those buying the potatoes pay for the inspections and certificates that were previously covered by MAS. There is no incentive for the GB businesses to pay for the certificates and inspections because they can sell their produce anywhere in GB without having this cost eat into their profits.
When I challenged the minister to justify her decision to discontinue MAS she said: โDefra, like other Government departments, must prioritise its spending as part of the work to tackle the financial situation this Government inherited. The Department considered evidence on scheme closure from supermarkets and other retailers, producers and trade bodies.โ The difficulty with this justification is that it ignores the other points she is required to take into consideration.
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no fan of Jim Allister (TUV) but he raises a valid point in his piece (link in ALT) about the UK GOV stopping the Movement Assistance Scheme (MAS), which helped traders move agri-food goods from GB to NI post brexit.
TL;DR: brexit britain is (literally & economically) broke.
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07.10.2025 18:17 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 1
we may really just be witnessing the end of the UK Union Seรกn.
post empre, post devolution & post brexit, the rise of "englishness" shouldn't surprise us. And it's also not surprising to see them withdraw from the "british" and "Uk" thing.
06.10.2025 05:10 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Wonderful thread yet again Niall. I think that the immediate proof of a national UK desire to rejoin the EU, resides in how the nation responds to tory/reform(ukip) threat to leave the ECHR. If this is resoundly rejected on a national level, there's hope for rejoining. If not, it won't ever happen!
05.10.2025 16:02 โ ๐ 12 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 3 ๐ 0
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to be respected. The sensation of having to tuck one's tail between one's legs when one feels they are a superior part of the'eco system' in question is, I'm sure, disembodying in the literal form.
Hence the mixed opinion polls with a majority for inclusion and one for exclusion. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
06.10.2025 09:16 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
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'Englishdom', that has forever exempted the culture from equalising itself on an open scale. In other words, expecting others to open up, be reasonable and more balanced with diplomacy, whilst at the same time maintaining a superiority complex of 'we are your genuine whipmasters' and we deserve
06.10.2025 09:16 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
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I think what he's written there (the heart and soul of it) is one of the most progressive, soul searching, honest and self criticising pieces of writing you're ever gonna get imo.
He is basically saying that there is a pre-ordained chip programmed within 'Britishdom' or better said,
06.10.2025 09:16 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
But unfortunately the UK has never taken the European project seriously and still doesnโt
Thatโs why the main complaints in the aftermath of Brexit are about queues at passport control, queues at Dover, why canโt our โcreativesโ play concerts wherever and whenever they choose, why are there limits
05.10.2025 15:10 โ ๐ 19 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
PS I don't fully buy the idea that Europhobia is a generational issue. There are observed problems among millennial and Gen Z Britons as regard Europe, which I'll come. Back to another day.
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05.10.2025 13:57 โ ๐ 16 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
**Obviously this picture varies in Scotland and NI. But it is true across the UK.
Voters don't have to change party. They just need to make it clear to the parties that if they won't change their stance radically in Europe, they'll go somewhere else
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05.10.2025 13:57 โ ๐ 16 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
*Actually there are two countries that has a debilitating imperial nostalgia and don't fully want to embrace the European ideal, as well as the UK:
Turkey and Russia.
Make of that what you will
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05.10.2025 13:52 โ ๐ 21 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 1
And that means defeating Brexitism and exorcising the special-deal exceptionalism from the join movement.
Give Europe's desire for support on Ukraine, and the visible unpopularity of Brexit, there's never been a better time.
It's there for you.
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05.10.2025 13:50 โ ๐ 23 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
So, Tom is wrong. If by some miracle (not a miracle) the political consensus in the UK was transformed, and the UK really wanted to commit and not be a drag in integration, then I have no doubt that such an application would be taken on the merits.
Getting to that point is the trick.
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05.10.2025 13:48 โ ๐ 30 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 5 ๐ 0
Secondly voters have vote for Europe. No excuses.
Thirdly voters, WM, and pro-Europeans need to say Brexit was a mistake because the UK is *just another country*. Europe is all its facets should be embraced. It should be taken as a whole.
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05.10.2025 13:45 โ ๐ 24 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Corcening the road to being a responsible part of the community, this needs three actions: the massive pro-European movement is a huge weapon, but it has to stop pandering to exceptionalists and Extrawurst Groรbritannien. They are the problem.
Build a sense of actual Europeanism.
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 25 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Accepting this, there is a narrow path.
Firstly, with third-pillar or Efta EEA or another single market reletionship, Bxl is frightened of UKG simply blocking up the system.
Easy solution: direct effect with penalty clauses and expulsion if it doesn't work (even on a time-limited basis)
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 18 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
UK voters select anti- European parties** in big numbers, and even Labour is opposed to joining because it can't lead (very accurate I'd say, control is cwnt al to the modern Labour party.
Were all that to change Tom argues, Europe would in any case say no anyhow
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 20 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
Even the pro-European movement is skewered as been riddled with exceptionalists who just want select benefits, like the holiday-villa 'Ndrangheta, who demand Europe let them do what they wish without registeeing or declaring their global income in our jurisdiction.
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 24 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
These is indeed a good chance that the UK is heading in the opposite direction, away from the rules if law, and towards a weird white-English nationalism, and inimical to Europe's interests.
Be in no doubt, ECHR is central toEuro-UK relationship. Leaving means generations before rapprochement
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 29 ๐ 4 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
It simply meant Westminster thought it was too good for humdrum Council meetings and integration. As bigger than all that.
Nostalgia is not unusual in Europe, from Bulgaria on three seas to Hungarian itredentism to D-mark memories
But nowhere does it lead to thinking of being too big* for ๐ช๐บ.
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 17 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
Brexit, the optouts and blackmail in the financial crisis are part of the institutional memory.
Can we construct an counter-argument? Is there a way to break the cycle?
Firstly, let's look at Tom's diagnosis. Imperial nostalgia is a major part of the complex.
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 29 ๐ 4 ๐ฌ 4 ๐ 0
Sorry if that shocks.
Tom is right, that feeling is, not only because of the rejection of Europe, but since the start, the UK hasn't been "into" it.
It's been happy to string us along, but could never fully commit, and was ultimately looking to trade up (Washington, the Commonwealth, etc.)
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05.10.2025 13:44 โ ๐ 24 ๐ 4 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
This opening and closing from @tomhayes.bsky.social is mainstream opinion.
As I've said, opinion ranges from: nostalgic for the UK, and a sense of lost mission; relief that the saga is over; and simply having moved on.
None of these (and maybe MSs) will put effort in to UK joining
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