Longfellow's "whoever he might be, the master made them" questions who built the banks that allow Virgil & Dante to pass the fiery sand & river of blood. Hollanders follow this derailed train of thought with "except the architect, whoever he was". We're suddenly wondering who created Hell?!
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That may sound like gobbledegook translateese but it's never easy when Dante goes abstract as opposed to plain storytelling i.e. action & description. Doesn't help both my translator guides took a head stagger with this verse, Hollanders copying Longfellow I suspect (as they do at times) ...2
08.02.2026 20:51 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
CANTO XV cont'd: a tale imagine eran fatti quelli/tutto che nรฉ sรฌ alti nรฉ sรฌ grossi/qual che si fosse, lo maestro fรฉlli. to such image were these made, albeit (all that) not so high nor so thick; that which was thus, the Master made them.
08.02.2026 20:49 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
When the thread got too long - "Is this the longest thread on Twitter?" some wag asked, forgot to get name - Twitter, before it was X'd, started to delete earliest posts. That's when I decided it was an impermanent performative art piece & brain exercise. But yeah, also screenshots as I go.
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The things I'd forgotten. Thought I started during Covid lockdown, then thought November 2019. Forgot it was because my Italian teacher pissed me off. Night class had retired teachers & someone who translated Cicero, Ovid et al (moi); we could've done it instead of the usual boring shite .../2
08.02.2026 20:30 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
I guess you haven't read the thread.
08.02.2026 20:25 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Copy of an original tweet dated Nov 27, 2018.
Starting this pinned thread for 3rd time lucky. THE DANTE PROJECT: To Hell & Back Again. Translating Dante's Inferno, parsing for syntax & vocab not poetry (myriad others do that) plus devil-may-care commentary. Originally on TwitterX'd, then here & now here again. How & when it started.
08.02.2026 20:24 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Also politicians: Big Tech owns us, we can't go for them. Let's target the kids.
08.02.2026 20:13 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Kids are much easier to take on than Big Tech who have politicians & even governments in their pocket.
08.02.2026 20:07 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Your age is showing, not to mention your bias.
08.02.2026 20:04 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
THIS โ๏ธ
08.02.2026 20:00 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Social media is not going away & censoring kids is not the answer. This is just the same old "back to basics" nonsense every generation tried to inflict on the next one. A refusal to recognise the world has changed. The kids aren't the problem. Big Tech is.
08.02.2026 19:55 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
But there is a need for regulation, factchecking & oversight in areas such as child abuse, porn, dangerous disinformation, manipulation of the algorithms to affect elections etc Twitter had factchecking & Musk disabled it & argues EU's insistence on it is against "freedom of speech".
08.02.2026 19:52 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
TikTok educating American kids on the Gaza genocide led to the whole "China is collecting our data" (as if Big Tech isn't) & forcing the sale to Trumpian Yanks who are already controlling the algorithms.
08.02.2026 19:50 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Control kids, not Big Tech! Kids are easier target.
08.02.2026 19:47 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Anyway, not anyone. Sigh.
08.02.2026 19:46 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
The article & therefore my response was about the banning of kids, not Internet toxicity which you introduced. You're being deliberately obtuse because your position is untenable & unpopular.
08.02.2026 19:45 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
All in a day on the Worldwide Web. Anyone I have the lot, both from TwitterX'd & here. It's a performative piece & a brain exercise & learning Italian from Il Maestro.
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Later, gotta go to the gym. Have a good Sunday, a dhaoine! ๐ค
08.02.2026 14:43 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
It's always been pretty obvious they live in a different world with rarefied - as in less - oxygen. Damages the brain.
08.02.2026 14:41 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
If "we" (whites) can't do it, it must be wrong!
08.02.2026 14:37 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Nope, we want them regulated & controlled, not the kids. You just don't ... understand.
08.02.2026 14:36 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
You really can't hear. No point talking to you.
08.02.2026 14:30 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
a woman wearing a sweater that has a house on it
Alt: Golden Age actress passing out on sofa.
Ah feck, I just deleted my entire Dante's Inferno translation thread by accident. Wanted to edit the Ibelin skeet. FFS. And I can't find the thread in replies. Thanks be to jaysus & his divine mudda I screenshot the lot. Will post last skeet & continue from there. It's just for me anyway lol.
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two close ups - one a young boy, the other his online avatar
Anyone defending the ban of young people from the Internet please watch THE REMARKABLE LIFE OF IBELIN the story of a paraplegic child's life online which his parents didn't know about until he died. Place your arguments against his beautiful life. Regulate toxic Web content, not kids.
08.02.2026 14:25 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 2 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
You didn't read the article about the harm done to kids with disabilities? Nor what vulnerable young people - queer, transgender, autistic, socially anxious etc - say who rely on the Internet for community? You should watch The Incredible Life of Ibelin about a paraplegic child's life online.
08.02.2026 14:14 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Apparently not obvious to those who brought in the legislation and some responding here. But I genuinely don't understand your second point. Could you explain what you mean?
08.02.2026 14:11 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 3 ๐ 0
At some point the West needs to deal with the enemy within - late-stage capitalism - and stop with the RED UNDER THE BED IT'S RUSSIA blame for everything.
08.02.2026 14:09 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
And apparently didn't talk to a wide range of parents of young adults.
08.02.2026 14:05 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
My point is that blocking kids - censorship of them - is not, cannot & will not be any kind of a solution. Regulate & censor Big Tech, the media, yes! And meantime, educate the kids to deal with social media & protect themselves. But this blocking of kids is a refusal to deal with toxic content.
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