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Every time we see one of those posts about people getting really into AI companions we get this horrible pit in our stomach.

I think it's okay to not know about things or not have them on your radar, not everyone can know everything. That does genuinely help frame where you're coming from and I appreciate the genuine answer, thank you.

Are you okay with slavery as a punishment for a crime???????

I'm not okay with slavery under any circumstances, actually, wtf is this logic...

Chattel slavery and prison slavery are both slavery despite their differences, and it's hideously cruel to suggest that an enslaved person isn't actually enslaved because you confused the difference. Please stop, now, it's grotesque what you're doing.

It is deeply offensive to say that someone explicitly held in slavery, who has to do slave labor, is not a slave because they do not have it as bad as chattel slaves, to whom I never once compared them.

Again, you're putting words in my mouth! Stop, please.

It is literally slavery. It's offensive to people subjected to this to call it *not* slavery because you can't distinguish between chattel slavery and prison slavery.

In what way is responding to a post about reasons to boycott America asking about other similar reasons to boycott America like talking about the price of eggs in Kazakhstan in response to someone talking about their mother's cancer?

I'm responding about boycotting America to someone posting about boycotting America. This is exactly the topic, actually.

What logic justifies boycotting the US because of a labor camp that does not moreso justify boycotting the US for having 2 million prison slaves?

Americans have gotten great material benefit from harming others, both around the world (the global south is gutted for US opulence) and domestically (where a racialized proletariat does back breaking work for the benefit of a mostly white settler class).

The vast majority of American workers are labor aristocrats who are handsomely rewarded for their loyalty to empire.

The median American income is in the global top 10%.

America is one of like 2 or 3 countries where the average wealth would decrease were global wealth to be equally distributed.

That is, before Trump, the US still had a half dozen colonial occupations, still had 2 million prison slaves, was still supplying 70% of Israeli arms and total diplomatic cover in the UN for the genocide, was still responsible for the destruction of Haiti, and on and on. Why only now boycott?

All of the examples I gave were of the US doing much worse things than a labor camp, is my point, so I'm asking why start the boycott now under Trump?

Or put another way, doesn't any rationale that supports boycotting Israel surely support the same for the US for almost all history?

Again, I'm not using hyperbole (what do you even think is hyperbolic??), and you were not just asking for clarification. Your first reply was literally not even a question, come on...

And it's super fair to be annoyed at that! Sorry for the offense, but maybe the best way to avoid this is not posting increasingly inflammatory suggestions about what I might be saying.

I think it's super fair to read that question as a not-so-thinly veiled way to suggest what I'm saying, though. In the context of this being a reply to another post also suggesting I'm saying something I didn't ("nothing changed"), it seems like this is exactly what you were doing, actually.

I'm using absolutely zero hyperbole. The explicit text of the thirteenth amendment says that slavery of imprisoned people is legal. There are about 2 million people in the US who meet that criteria and their slave labor is used all the time in every state.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for supporting this boycott! At the same time, I also want to understand why it seems like a lot of people consider 1 labor camp more objectionable than prison slavery, 6 different colonial occupations, supporting a genocide, starving millions, or what the US does to Haiti

I mean this genuinely bc I really do want to understand this apparent dissonance: what about Trump and this camp make this a boycott you want to engage in that wasn't satisfied with the total support for Israel's campaign of extermination in Gaza or the starvation of nearly 2 million Afghanis?

Where did I say Palestinian citizens of Israel were slaves or that nothing has changed under Trump?

No, the US has about 2 million prisoners and prison slavery is explicitly legal per the text of the 13th Amendment to the Constitution.

Israel is committing genocide, though, so I'm curious to hear why you think boycotting a state for a labor camp is warranted but not not for supporting genocide.

South Korean senators scaled 2m high spiked walls to get into the parliament to vote despite being locked out by the police.

You look at that and then look at what the Democrats have done and tell me if you think they're doing everything they can or not.

I'm a communist lmao I did not put anyone anywhere.

I am absolutely and happily decrying the breathless performative outrage that seems to be the full extent of "resistance" we can expect from liberals.

Or why is it more justified to boycott a country for having a labor camp than it is to boycott them for the several ongoing colonial occupations (PR, Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, Marianas) subjugating millions of people?

How did Jim Crow or indigenous genocides also not merit this in spades?

I never said nothing has changed, but I would love for you, if you genuinely disagree with what I *did* say, to argue that it's justified to boycott a state for having a labor camp but not a country with 2 million prisoners on whom it practices legal slavery.

Is anyone doing anything about it?

While the sentiment is clearly heartfelt and we think it's not wrong, it belies that this would have been equally true at every point in American history (at least as long as we don't treat the harms right now as special only because Trump does them).

there is no such thing as [thing that exists, but I hadn’t heard of before]

there were no founding mothers because back in those days the men got each other pregnant

After "screams without words," it should be perfectly clear that they do not care about factual accuracy or conflicts of interest. They care, first and foremost, about propagandizing for their conservative political program.