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Of course she believes in it but money and power are far more important.

Green or Lib Dem’s for me now. The only way I will vote for Labour is if it keeps Reform out of government.

This was the response from my Labour MP when I wrote to him about pip. Seems to have no idea that pip is not an out of work benefit despite having worked for the DWP.

Starmer and Reeves need to go, Labour then have 3 and a half years to repair the damage they have caused by offering people hope.

The moral position of this government is a disgrace; disability, Israel, Trump to name a few and if the Tories get back in at the next election, they’ll be nothing for them to cut.

It’s not confidence, it’s fact. If they classed you as a new claimant then this wouldn’t be a u-turn, it would be what they were proposing up until today.

No you won’t and even if you were, the changes haven’t even been voted in in parliament yet.

You’re not you’re treated as an existing claimant. Use your common sense; the u-turn would be meaningless if your interpretation was correct.

Does it matter? They are doing what their constituents want them to do and to an extent, it’s worked.

If they renew they are current claimants and will be reassessed under the old (current) criteria, otherwise what the government have said today would be totally meaningless.

It doesn’t though, otherwise why have this concession? When the claim ends, you are assessed as a current claimant, not a new one.

That’s what they were trying to do.

Just kicks the can down the road. It’s not sustainable which will lead to future governments having to sort out the mess and put disabled people back through this process again. If that’s a Con/Reform government, then expect worse.

No, they will be treated as existing claimants going through a ‘renewal’ process. The problem will come when someone’s condition improves, loses pip but then a few years later their condition worsens and they have to reapply as a new claimant.

You’re right, it won’t save money. Pip was supposed to save money compared to DLA it’s didn’t. Add in more and more MRs and appeals that the DWP will have to deal with, many will be successful, the cost will escalate.

It is when only a couple of days ago the government was digging its heels in despite the opposition. It’s a total embarrassment that exceeds any of Johnson/Sunak reversals of policy.

Will look forward to listening to this, one of the few decent Labour ministers left. It was he (and Geoff) that got me into listening to podcasts in the first place.

The rosette is in scale with the forehead.

We’re relying on the Americans to see sense and to get rid of the MAGA lot in 2028 to save the U.K. This is how bad this country has become.

I received a reply from my Labour MP yesterday who seemed to be under the assumption that Pip was an out of work benefit although I also think most of the reply was copied and pasted from Government press releases.

And that’s if it’s not watered down. The more people that email their MP, especially if they are Labour, the more likely these changes will be swept under the table.

A lot, this is why people need to write to their MP, especially if they are Labour to explain that having multiple 4x2 points isn’t some sort of joke.

It will be late 2026 as it will involve a White Paper, plus current claimants will only reassessed when there current claim runs out added to that the huge backlog, some people won’t be affected for ages.

Exactly, pip helps people to work by giving them support e.g. when fatigued, transport etc. I thought the government wanted to help people work?!

Unlikely, most of it was would have been for clicks as many claimants have been in a state of panic, so will click on any pip story to try and shed some light on upcoming reform.

Always voted Labour, Lib Dem or Green for me if this goes through.

I’m guessing new applicants at first and then when reassessment is due, can’t see them reassessing early with the current overburdened system.

The 4 point thing is ridiculous and will cause a lot of people to lose their pip, some disabilities will have an impact on multiple aspects of their lives which is just as bad as impacting on one specific thing.

And whilst all the headlines will be about dropping the freeze it actually makes it easier for them to do the rest

Agree, no reason why @peterstefanovic.bsky.social can’t wait a couple of days give his opinions on the actual changes.