Put plainly, Elon Musk is not a moral or virtuous person when it comes to Ukraine. This shouldn't be hard to believe because his own messaging about empathy is quite clear. But then there is mountains of evidence showing Russia using starlink and musk being silent on the topic.
10.02.2026 00:50 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
I have read quite a bit about this, if you have any evidence to the contrary other than public denials I will read it. By your comments you clearly are not reading the links I posted, you are just looking at headlines, already knowing what its about, then posting from your already galvanized opinion
10.02.2026 00:46 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
You are saying that musk donated terminals and then the US later paid for service, and NONE of these starlink identifiers were written down? They had no idea what they were paying for or which units were receiving service?
10.02.2026 00:44 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Remember whatever he accuses people of is something he has done or is planning to do himself.
10.02.2026 00:41 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
This is all really to insolate themselves from unrelated cheating that they are going to attempt. Just like 2024. Who looked into himi cheating? No one. Because we are all conditioned to not question it. It made it trivially simple to cheat.
10.02.2026 00:40 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Yes, arrested and tried according to the local law in Minnesota. Put it to a jury of peers, not a magistrate judge deciding qualified immunity. Not appealed all the way up to the supreme court so they can issue a non-binding non-public shadow resolution
10.02.2026 00:38 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
I noticed that in the constitution there is nothing explicitly preventing the president from filling his cabinet with clones of himself that have been integrated mechanically with equipment that can be remotely controlled by the president from his presidential multi-avatar command center.
10.02.2026 00:29 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
This is EXACTLY what they are doing now. Only now since the funding has been cut off first by Starlink and then the US government (thanks only to Musk DOGEing USAID) their funding comes from different countries and places and its a bit more complicated, but obviously this was always an option.
09.02.2026 21:55 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
So you have a situation where you know all the starlink identifiers of the Ukranians. Service is supposed to be not allowed in Russia. Therefore make starlink not work for russia and ukraine, EXCEPT for the registered starlink identifiers.
09.02.2026 21:52 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
So I am saying that in the beginning of the war, Musk specifically gave them some units. Those had to be turned on individually and serviced by their Starlink Identifier. Therefore they knew the numbers. When the us funded it, they had to pay for them by Starlink Identifier. Therefor they knew them
09.02.2026 21:50 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
And by "they" i mean either the US government or SpaceX. As a subscriber service they can differentiate between different units, obviously because that's how the provide service to specific units and bill them.
09.02.2026 21:48 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Oh good! So are you saying that it is not true that at some point, they already knew all the identifiers of all the starlink being provided? Is are these the numbers I'm not knowing?
09.02.2026 21:46 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
Iโm sure becoming the first trillionaire really opened his wooden heart that same day
09.02.2026 19:01 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Ok so it is news, first hand accounts, video evidence on telegram alleging a company is doing corrupt things vs the word of said company. We can agree you believe Musk.
09.02.2026 19:01 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
If he didnโt cut off the US funding they would have known the serial numbers of every one sent. Thats why they have to register them now. Even this is no technological breakthrough. Ask any programmer if itโs hard to exclude individual units when you already know the numbers.
09.02.2026 18:58 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
The Crimea thing was not the main complaint. It was the counteroffensive. The Crimea narrative was confusing things. Once it became clear to Ukrainians that Musk was going to be playing games they shut up about it.
09.02.2026 18:48 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
There were tens of thousands being used by Russia. Ukraine has been asking him for 3 years to stop playing both sides. He would just get angry and start insulting them. Iโm saying the decision was arbitrary, not a technical constraint. unless you think this man is stupid
09.02.2026 18:34 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Administrative nightmare? He could have turned them off except for the ones being purchased by the US govt? How is it he could turn it off for Hamas and not Israel? Why not do the whitelist before? It took them 2 days from the moment he decided to do it. And it much more complicated now than before
09.02.2026 18:29 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
He did. He turned it off during the offensive. He geofenced it. We know this. Itโs only a question of whether it was mid attack or not, which it turns out it was
09.02.2026 18:21 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
It has three sources, none of them musk. Yes Musk denies it. That is the accusation, as well that Musk is a liar. His word is the only thing that refutes it.
09.02.2026 18:20 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
You should also go and reconsider anyone else you think is โbatshit crazyโ, if this is your standard.
09.02.2026 18:14 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Other than at the beginning and at the end, Elon musk has been hostile to Ukraine the whole time. It is not an accident. After he turned it off suddenly, the US was paying for it. Then he had DOGE eliminate USAID which is what had been providing the funding and logistics for starlink.
09.02.2026 18:12 โ ๐ 9 ๐ 3 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
He was providing it to both sides and he could have turned it off for Russia at any time. Yes he gave it to them for free at first but then turned it off during their counteroffensive and geofenced it after that so they couldnโt advance. Look it up
09.02.2026 17:58 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
That's right! The buck stops here.
08.02.2026 13:18 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Anyone else notice the epstein files Dataset 10 seem to be generating on-demand? It makes sense from a website point of view. Why generate them if no one has requested them? Well one funny thing about that- the newer generated pages are all in sequential order.
07.02.2026 23:22 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
They just call it underaged prostitution. Lured into the party lifestyle by the unnatural incentives of abortion, female education and career. But boys will be boys
07.02.2026 22:17 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
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