LOL.

What the fuck is your problem? Jumping in on other people’s conversations to troll? Get a life fuckhead.

Mission accomplished then. Thanks!

This was 21 hrs ago and we’ve gone on to have a ton of intelligent conversations. Are you here for that or should we ignore you?

This is 100% a correct point.

You’re 100% right. I added that word to make it harder to defend. Unfair.

I agree with you. It also informs a level political rigidity I’m trying to understand. Thinking that compromise wasn’t preferable.

So you would say the outcomes would be the exactly same regardless of who was elected?

Overton window right? I mean you take the classic right and left wing from France and slide the window understand the framing of a particular place. Ours is way to the right, there’s isn’t as much.

I’m a political utilitarian but if you needed to categorize me, you’d land on democratic socialism. I don’t think it’s unrealistic.

Naw. Disagree. I don’t think it’s far left at all. I’d point to much more right leaning countries that have universal healthcare as evidence of that. Plus, universal healthcare helps to bring a country closer together and we need that too.

Their far left is WAY further left than ours and they have more than two parties. That makes a huge difference.

We don’t need to make comparisons. You can just directly criticize my position. Much easier.

Let’s use the actual example then? Biden admin funded Israel. Harris was Biden’s VP. Trump was running in leveling Palestine and making it a resort. One of those two people were going to win. My calculation was to vote for the other candidate that wasn’t Trump that had any chance of stopping him.

Just to save time, I have a bunch of good conversations going on in this thread. I can add you if you are serious about engaging.

Do you mean that the white people are trying to segregate themselves? That’s really interesting.

No problem. I’m more interested in talking to individuals about their thought process to better understand the collective of people who didn’t vote. Thank you for then good faith conversation.

That’s a bit less literal than I was trying to be but I get it. How would someone earn your vote?

That’s what I’d like to see too. If I was forced to categorize myself it would as a democratic socialist.

And those who didn’t vote. Ultimately we are all responsible for our action or inaction, right?

I get it. That’s why I reframed the scenario.

I’m a political utilitarian so I’m not a fan or either party per-say. If I had to categorize my political belief I think it aligns more with Democratic Socialism

So you’d not vote for anyone that was in favor of capitalism?

That’s not the scenario. Scenario is a that Hidenburgs VP is the candidate and running against Hitler who hasn’t been elected yet but clearly would produce worse outcomes if elected. In that scenario, I nick Hindenburgs VP.

Even if we didn’t you should want it. The “far left” has great views in a ton of different topics and is incredibly valuable to a robust coalition.

Huh? I was just making a joke. Anyway, do you want to engage like these other intelligent people here or no? I’m having a bunch of conversations with people who are and can add you as well.

I would consider not voting because you don’t feel like your vote matters as apathy.

Because I’m trying to determine the level of political rigidity.

Oh I definitely think inaction if a choice of the individual ultimately.

You can do that but it’s kind of a waste of everyone’s time.